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[thewhitepowerranger]

im not entirely sure how to bench bleed it. when i inverted it to try it that way i didnt turn it upside down i just kinda tilted it. i stomped the clutch as hard and as fast as i could and nothing you think it just is air trapped inside the master? the master is brand new so im not sure if i was supposed to bench bleed it first? guide me through the whole procedure if you would like because im pretty lost at this point other than turning the thing upside down

also....if i open the bleeder and pump the pedal wont it suck air back into the system?

 

[4x4junkie]

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If you didn't crack the bleeder open just a hair like I said to, then that's why it's not working, you're just forcing the same old fluid (and air) back & forth without actually pumping anything through.

Little to no air will get in the system as long as you have a length of hose on the end of the bleeder fitting (and any air that does get in will be confined to the slave itself where it's easy to bleed it out through normal means).




Bench bleeding (from the Ford manual):
1.
Start with tube and reservoir attached to clutch master cylinder, but system removed from vehicle. Lightly clamp reservoir in a vise.

2.
Hold clutch master cylinder vertically with reservoir feed hose in the highest position on the body.

3.
Fill reservoir and extend above clutch master cylinder and make sure the quick connect on clutch line is below the clutch master cylinder.

4.
Using a small screwdriver, depress the internal mechanism of the male quick connect coupling to open the valve.

5.
Stroke and hold master cylinder push rod.

6.
Close quick connect valve.

7.
Release master cylinder push rod.

8.
Fill reservoir.

9.
Repeat steps 4 through 8 four more times.

10.
With the clutch master cylinder still being held with the outlet tube and reservoir feed tube ends high, quick connect closed and the reservoir full, push the push rod into the body several times quickly to expel any remaining air. (if remote reservoir, pinch supply hose with fingers two or three times to help move air into reservoir.)

11.
When the movement of the push rod is 4mm (.160 inch) or less when stroked in Step 10 above, the clutch master cylinder may be reinstalled into the vehicle and coupled to the concentric clutch slave cylinder.

 

[thewhitepowerranger]

thank you soo soo much for your help.....i did what you said without the bench bleeding...i was trial and erroring while you responded, but i got a pedal and just kept bleeding it from there. i then made a cycle using 4' of vaccum hose going from the bleeder to the reservoir. it was odd though because clean fluid was coming out yesterday. then when i got somewhat of a pedal today all kinds of black shit was coming out of the bleeder. my pedal either feels kinda squishy still or i just never knew what a good clutch felt like but i think ill bleed it a little more tomorow just to be safe. either way thanks for all your help.

 

[4x4junkie]

Sounds like you didn't get all the crap flushed out of the slave (or the clutch line).
Keep flushing it until the fluid comes out clear (don't let the reservoir run dry though or you'll be back to square 1).

If the pedal still feels a little squishy but is enough to work the clutch, it should firm back up as you drive it after about 50-100 miles or so.

Anyway, no problem man, that's why I hang out here

Good luck with it.