thermostat problem

[WNY964x4]

3.0's are NOT known to have air trappage problems in their cooling systems, so don't even worry about it.

Every thermostat I've ever put into my Ranger has fluctuated when new, so again don't even worry about it... give the 'stat some time to run in and it will eventually steady out.

Like I said air trappage in the cooling system of the 3.0 engine is not a problem... if it were then there would be some type of bleeder located on the top of the engine.

Trust me on this one - instead of wasting your time drilling holes and what-not, give your new 'stat a couple of weeks to run in, and I think you'll find that it will settle in nicely and will quit causing your temp gauge to fluctuate.

wicked , did you notice that this guy jumps in in perfect time to contradict everything the more experienced guys have to say , he did this on the e-fan thing also and turned that into a war

not flaming or anything , but mccormack , you need to give it a break , let the experienced guys do the talking , and maybe learn a thing or two in the process

 

[Gotta_gofast]

Like I said air trappage in the cooling system of the 3.0 engine is not a problem... if it were then there would be some type of bleeder located on the top of the engine.

Trust me on this one - instead of wasting your time drilling holes and what-not, give your new 'stat a couple of weeks to run in, and I think you'll find that it will settle in nicely and will quit causing your temp gauge to fluctuate.

In his first post he said he's tired of changing therostats every year... I don't think it will take a whole year to break it in. When I threw in my 180 degree thermostat (already had a 1/16th hole) it did not fluctuate at all. Started it up and held its position.

 

[WNY964x4]

yea , i never had a problem with mine from napa , had the hole in it , no flucuation , he just likes to make himself look smarter than the guys that have been around here and around rangers for longer , i mean did you read his sig ? his list of "mods" to his truck , some are legit but others

 

[McCormack]

small v-6's are usually kind of a bear to bleed. IIRC, there actually is a bleeder located higher up on the newer engines because ford realized it would help.

Actually V type engines rarely have bleed problems - inline type engines have far more bleed problems than V's do.

The 3.0 has been in production for many many years now, and if there was a bleed problem then Ford would have addressed it years ago.

 

[Sasquatch_Ryda]

Tstats don't need a break in time....Do as said, drill a small hole in it and call it good.

I've never had a new T stat cause a fluctuating gauge. Most Motorcraft T stats have a little relief valve in them for this reason.

 

[McCormack]

wicked, did you notice that this guy....

I find that it's the individuals that are insecure about their opinions and ideas that feel the need to get their buddies support for what they have to say. I'm right here, so if you've got a difference of opinion with me then instead of addressing your buddies, show some common courtesy and address me directly and we'll talk about it.

he did this on the e-fan thing also and turned that into a war.

A war? Oh please... all I did was to express my point of view. And you don't agree with my point of view, so the only way you can fight back is to make up phony "turned into a war" charges. Grow up.

... let the experienced guys do the talking , and maybe learn a thing or two in the process

How do you know what experience I do or do not have? And what have I posted in this thread - or anywhere on this web site for that matter - that has not been a direct result of my personal experience with the subject being discussed?
And BTW I've read some of your posts, and judging from the advice you've given I would suggest that it's you that could learn a thing or two.

 

[Sasquatch_Ryda]

I'm now into my 3rd thermostat, who makes one the isn't a piece of shit cuz I keep having to replace auto zones fail safe thermostats about every year and its starting to irritate me

It says it right there. Maybe you should re-read the topic first.

 

[McCormack]

.... i mean did you read his sig ? his list of "mods" to his truck , some are legit but others

Just which "mod" is it that you're having a problem with? What is your own personal experience with the things that I've done to my truck? Have you actually done any of the mods to your own Ranger that I've done to mine?

And please stop with the personal attack garbage... if you've got a difference of opinion with me, then let's discuss those differences and show some respect for each other and leave the cheap-shots out of it.

It's interesting that in one of your other posts you accuse me of flaming and war starting and what-not, yet in this thread you're the only one that has bad-mouthed and talked crap about people... who's the real flamer and war starter? And you then have the nerve to say that I'm the one that should give it a break? Such hypocrisy.

It would be nice if you would quite bloating this thread with your off topic personal attacks and comments so that we could get this thread back on track.

 

[McCormack]

It says it right there. Maybe you should re-read the topic first.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm well aware of what the topic is. Nice cheap shot, though.
I gotta believe that GottaGoFast is a big boy and is perfectly capable of personally responding to what I have to say to him, so perhaps it would be better if, instead of speaking for him, you would show some courtesy and let him speak for himself.

But having said that, I did make a mistake... GottaGoFast directly quote me in his post, so I naturally assumed that his comments were in direct regard to me and my earlier comments, and not the OP's. Apparently not - so I apologize for the misunderstanding, and because of that misunderstanding I'm deleting my post. I would hope that some maturity would be shown and no one would play holier-than-thou about the issue.

 

[McCormack]

Tstats don't need a break in time....
I've never had a new T stat cause a fluctuating gauge.

I love close-minded viewpoints... just because I haven't personally experienced something, then that means that it's not possible that anybody else could have either.

 

[Wicked_Sludge]

quite bloating this thread

there are 11 posts on this page above this one. 6 of them are yours.

this isnt the first thread of seen you fly off the handle in. anytime anyone questions your authority, you take it as a personal attack and start picking other posters to peices.

why dont you sit back, take a deep breath, and open your mind a little. you arent always right, and niether is anyone else here. i realize you have an extremely sensitive ego and feel compelled to defend it...but posting 3 posts in a row that have nothing to do with the thread is a little much. if you want to argue and bicker with other members, take it to PM.

now.

its been a while since ive been under the hood of a newer 3.0...but i have a friend with an '02 that ill try to remember to check out later this week to see if it has an air bleeder for the cooling system. it seems to me that it was on a taurus that i first noticed the bleeder though, so it may be that ford didnt install bleeders on the rangers (taurus and ranger 3.0's have different coolant flow, maybe the RWD platform lends itself to proper bleeding better than the FWD one).

 

[WNY964x4]

thank you wicked , and i believe you are right , it is like with dodge neons , they use an air bleed on there 4 cylinder , but dodge pickups do not on their 4 cylinders , i believe it has to do with the drivetrain and coolant setup , because most front wheel drive cars have a pressurized recovery tank , not a radiator cap like rwd , so that may be the readson , air can escape into our overflow tanks , but it does not have that oppurtunity on a fwd with a pressurized recoverey tank

 

[WNY964x4]

How do you know what experience I do or do not have? And what have I posted in this thread - or anywhere on this web site for that matter - that has not been a direct result of my personal experience with the subject being discussed?
And BTW I've read some of your posts, and judging from the advice you've given I would suggest that it's you that could learn a thing or two.

yes i can learn a thing or two , i am new to the 3.0 and the IFS system , i have only owned one for 6 months , but when it comes to a TTB and a 4.0 , i know alot more , but that is why i sit back and listen to what the more experienced people have to say , and ask questions , like with wicked , if it werent for his knowledge of the 3.0 i would have never fixed my truck , so yes , i dont know everything , but i sit back and listen so i can learn more about my truck. and i put input in with things i have experience with

and what posts are you referring to , what bad advice have i given

 

[Gotta_gofast]

Lets settle down before we get grounded by a moderator! lol, and to McCormack, I only quoted you because of the bottom paragraph where you suggested a break-in period for the thermostat. I was only pointing out that Fordboi was experiencing problems with his thermostat after a year's worth of use. If the thermostat was causing problems after installation then I would suggest for him to take your advice and wait to see if it "smooths out". But, his thermostats have been failing after a year, which leads me to believe it is not a break-in problem but a mechanical failure. Since it happens to be roughly once a year, maybe during the hot parts of summer when the coolant gets hotter than usual in busy traffic steam developes from the air pockets and that extra pressure could cause issues. Or, maybe its cold outside and the expansion of fluid from 10 degrees to 180 degrees is enough to create the same "steam" effect. Since I (and many others) have had years of problem free thermostats and we all report that there is a small relief or bypass hole, maybe this is the key to longevity. Not to mention, when I pulled my factory thermostat to replace with a 180*, the factory had a hole, too. I just want us to be on the same page. I am not saying that thermostats do not fluctuate when first installed, just that I have never experienced this and your solution does not fit all the criteria of Fordboi's dilema like the relief hole does.

 

[Mutant Pony]

I was gone for a day and missed all the fun.
McCormack, 3.0 Fords DO have a problem with trapped air. You proved it. You said the gauge fluctuates after installation of a new thermostat. That is trapped air.