The 6.6L v8

[Ranger Kip]

I have a chance to get another one of these engines other than the one in my truck. ($120 runs, has a tranny on it too)

2 questions:

1. Will it fit in the ranger?
2. What type of power can I expect vs. a standard 5.0?

 

[fastpakr]

Out of what?

 

[Ranger Kip]

Out of what?

1979 Ford Bronco

 

[fastpakr]

You mean the 400? Nobody would ever refer to that as the '6.6 V8'. Yes, I realize the math might convert the same, but that's not the point.

 

[Ranger Kip]

You mean the 400? Nobody would ever refer to that as the '6.6 V8'. Yes, I realize the math might convert the same, but that's not the point.

this does not answer any of my questions still

 

[cody93]

are we talking about the 400ci M engine? those poor bastards are a victim of the jimmy carter era.. low compression and intergrated emmisions equipment. theres not realy an aftermarket for them and are not related to the smallblock ford(windsor) cleaveland or bigblock(429/460) it is possible to get some good HP out of them, but other engines are easier to come by. hell, i know were i can get one for free out of an 1979 f-150 stuck in a ditch from last years flood.

now, sticking one in a ranger(asuming its a ranger ranger and not the bronco with ranger trim) is not advisable, probly not pratical. i know people swaped in 460s and typicaly have to make a custom firewall, with no heater/ac or power brakes or power steering, and are 2wd or lifted solid axels.

compared to a 5.0, the 400 would probly make more low end torque due to longer stroke so it would probly be best to use the 400 instead in a full size bronco. but a 5.0 is a good choice for a ranger.

 

[Ranger Kip]

the 400m is a smallblock though, it sits up a little higher though

 

[fastpakr]

The 400 is -not- a 'small block' engine in any way. It uses the same bolt pattern as the 460. The 'M' designation applies to its destroked 351cid sibling (that also uses a large bolt pattern).

 

[Ranger Kip]

im just going by what wikipedia said, it was a modified 351 with a longer stroke

 

[skx762]

Yes, it should fit. If a 460 will go, the 400 should fit too. There is a rear sump oil pan that exists for it and you would remote the oil filter just like a 5.0. The headers are where you are going to run into a problem. I think the motor mounts are a little goofy too.

There are links here for the 460 Ranger swap and people have done the new v8 as well. Here is one for the 460 swap:

http://www.bigblockranger.com/

Are you talking 2 or 4 wheel drive?

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

You mean the 400? Nobody would ever refer to that as the '6.6 V8'. Yes, I realize the math might convert the same, but that's not the point.

The emissions label and valve cover call them a 6.6L, argue with Ford not us.

The 400 is -not- a 'small block' engine in any way. It uses the same bolt pattern as the 460. The 'M' designation applies to its destroked 351cid sibling (that also uses a large bolt pattern).

It is a stroked 351C with a taller deck, it is legally a smallblock by the bore spacing. Same heads as a 2bbl 351C. Some early ones even had the SBF boltpattern but they are really rare. The 351M was just a 400 block/rods with a 351C crank and with really tall pistons.

They are VERY related to a Cleveland.

They were trying to replace the 460 family with them and needed the BBF bellhousing for the big torque converters and clutches to do so.

 

[trail B2]

I had one of these for years put a adjustable timing chain in it.I also had a aluminum intake and Eldebrock carburetor.Part of the Jimmy Carter era was retarding cam timing so it ran real well after that.Also the 400 came in the cars somebody put the 400 in the bronco I could only find 351's in the trucks.The 400 ran a lot better than 351's.If I wanted a big motor in a Ranger I would get a 351w a lot of aftermarket support and physically smaller.The 400 is pretty big.

 

[Snoranger]

The emissions label and valve cover call them a 6.6L, argue with Ford not us.



It is a stroked 351C with a taller deck, it is legally a smallblock by the bore spacing. Same heads as a 2bbl 351C. Some early ones even had the SBF boltpattern but they are really rare. The 351M was just a 400 block/rods with a 351C crank and with really tall pistons.

They are VERY related to a Cleveland.

Ford doesnt officially use the terms big block or small block. So legally, there is no small or big block. But, yes it technically is a small block.

Also, the 400 came first. So a 351m is a destroked 400, not the other way around.

I had one of these for years put a adjustable timing chain in it.I also had a aluminum intake and Eldebrock carburetor.Part of the Jimmy Carter era was retarding cam timing so it ran real well after that.Also the 400 came in the cars somebody put the 400 in the bronco I could only find 351's in the trucks.The 400 ran a lot better than 351's.If I wanted a big motor in a Ranger I would get a 351w a lot of aftermarket support and physically smaller.The 400 is pretty big.

400s most defiantly came in trucks. I had a '79 f350 Supercab Ranger Camper Special w/ a 400. My grandfather bought it new in '79. I was the 2nd owner. It never had an engine swap.

 

[Mac]

Yep, me and new wife ordered a '75' F-150 all set-up for towing our horse trailer and it had the 400. I guess I didn't know that the 400 came in cars also.
Dave

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Ford doesnt officially use the terms big block or small block. So legally, there is no small or big block. But, yes it technically is a small block.

Also, the 400 came first. So a 351m is a destroked 400, not the other way around.

Ford called it a 6.6L in the end, I never said they had any .02 about whether it was a big/small block. Obviously there is no legal regulations about what is big/small but by the generally accepted standard they are small blocks.

By saying the 351M used a 400 block means the 400 had to exist first.

Dad has a '80 F-350 that came with a 400 but currently has another one out of an F-250. We have yet another sitting on a stand to replace the gasping one in it now of of a big boat of a car.