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A letter I sent to the local paper;

Re: speeding
I would like to see less emphasis on catching speeders and more spent on making it easier to do the speed limit and training drivers. The main reason I see for the emphasis on speeding is that it is easier to catch speeders than to catch tailgaters and discourteous/dangerous drivers. In Red Deer the police and the city set up a radar trap at places where it’s easiest to catch someone speeding rather than spending money on coordinating the speed limits and traffic lights to control traffic flow. And I don’t see these traps set up in bad weather or winter time, when I would expect it’s most dangerous time to speed, so that leads me to believe that radar traps aren’t set to make the roads safe, but to collect money. The city sent a flyer out last year that said that having everyone do the same speed was the safest way to lessen traffic accidents. I know that, in Red Deer at least, because our streets intersections aren’t at the same distances apart, it is hard to have the lights turn green as you approach the lights while doing a consistent speed. I would suggest that changing the speed limits both lower and higher to suit getting a green light while traveling in at least one direction would lower the tendency of people speeding attempting to catch the next light green. A number indicating the optimum speed [within the green light] to catch the next light while it’s green as well as having all the lights coordinated could help make this idea work. I’ve noticed over the course of several months while traveling the exact same route at the same time of day that the lights wouldn’t keep the same time, so that in the first month after turning left at the first light,the second light was green, in the third month the second light was red, and the fifth month the light was green again, indicating that the lights are not coordinated. I don’t know how lights are set up at the moment, but one way I thought of to help coordinate lights is use old cell phones to “talk” to each other so they all “know” what time it is. This would also help recycle some of the phones that we as a society throw away so easily. Another benefit of having lights coordinated is less green house gases being emitted and better gas mileage for everyone driving on our roads.

I’ve seen on the freeways that people consistently travel at 120-130 km/h. Lets change the limit to reflect the average speed that the general populace is doing. After all, this is a democracy, isn’t it? And instead of giving tickets to speeders, lets give tickets to people tailgating. As well, lets give tickets to people traveling at the same speed in the left lane [passing lane] as the person in the right lane, especially when they create a 20 car line behind them.

An even better way to prevent accidents is to train all drivers in accident avoidance, as well as the rules of the road. And lets have the insurance companies help pay for these courses along with both federal and provincial governments, as they will also be benefiting from less accidents. Perhaps it would be prudent to make these courses mandatory for all drivers at no personal cost as society would be the biggest beneficiaries. And to help keep the police employed, we could hire them as the drivers trainers. Though I would rather see them doing something more suited to their training, such as catching thieves, not speeders.

I’m not familiar with the highway to Fort Mac., but I would suggest that the government rescind the law making it illegal to pull over to the shoulder to allow someone an easier passing opportunity. Perhaps changing the right hand white line to an intermittent line in the areas that are safest to pull over would help people to decide to let others pass. One of the best memories of when I first moved into this province ~ 25 years ago was that people were willing to pull over to allow you to pass. This was a courtesy sadly lacking in the province I came from. I’m afraid that the overly safety conscious among us have too much power in making laws, and that they may be more concerned in making a law or making it look like they are doing something [to keep their jobs] than in making the roads safer.

Richard Mckenzie
 
It may be the cops are busier with more important things when bad weather is afoot, would you rather they be running speed traps or helping with wrecks, checking for downed powerlines/trees blocking the road, and all around helping those that need it?

From what I gather, they do more than just check speed. People without insurance and idiots driving under the influance also get caught during traffic stops which I strongly support. Around here they more or less bluff anyway, a black and white Crown Vic or Charger at 5pm sitting in plain sight on the side of the road does more to make people check their speed on the way home than a sign. One town I drove through when I was going to college had an old Caravan all decked out with cop stuff and tinted windows they would just move around town in stratigic areas and let sit... it took a couple times with the sun coming through the windows just right to realize there was no one in it.

We have what we call "creeper lanes" on some hills where it works out, it is an extra lane on a two lane so you can get over and let whatever knothead wants to pass, pass. You have to pay attention, if you are nice for one guy the dink behind him will also usually try to worm in and force you off on the gravel. It is amazing how much gravel a vehicle can throw around... usually they stand on the brake to let you back in if they are not too far past. :D

I have had enough run-ins with wildlife and farm equipment that I do not wish for another 10-20mph to shed in an emergancy. Most of the people that pass me with more than a couple mph difference are sporting out of state plates, if the stupid people can't read let them pay. I have no problem with cops taxing stupid people. Out of staters won't be voting on the speed limit anyway.

I do think it would be nice to bring stop lights into the 21st century. I get sick of sitting at red lights and nobody ever going through the other way. To add to the frustration it is very rare to make it down the main drag here in town without catching a solid string of red lights.
 
I agree with you on this but good luck man seriously, trying to make changes like that won't be at all easy, and I'm too tired and busy to fight that battle.
 
Hmmm. The seatbelt law. It got passed here in Florida. But you only get caught when you are spotted by a cop for not wearing a seatbelt. Speeding is and will always be an issue. Cops are not around all the time in all the places you see speeders. I see people pass other cars in a 25 mph zone in our community. Where are the cops? I see people speed through parking lots at 45 mph. Where are the cops? If no cop is around to catch a speeder then the speeder will never be caught. I don't think a driving or training class will help...who is going to pay for it? How much will this cost? Speeders will always speed even if they have been to a training class. I see cops every day pass me on their way to work. Who is going to pull over the cops who speed? HP's speed as well. I jhave seen them several times a month pass me in a hurry to go nowhere fast.
 
My turn......

in my area, driving in the passing lane is now against the law (it keeps the "squatters" from causing moving traffic jams on our interstates)

HOWEVER...now the speeders can run at 90mph instead of 80mph cause they don't have to dodge the Squatters any more....

In cities, roads have been widened from 2-lane roads to 6-lane expressways to help city traffic flow better...

HOWEVER...in the city, the same Squatters still manage to get side-by-side on a six-lane exprrssway and slow the 65mph traffic down to 45mph....

IMAGINE THAT!

RANT-TIME....AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK THERE'S ENUFF SORRY SQUATTERS IN LOO-Z-ANNA THAT THE ROADS COULD BE WIDENED TO 16 LANES EACH WAY---AND THE SQUATTERS WOULD STILL MANAGE TO GET SIDE-BY-SIDE!

there...i feel better now...
 
Move over laws are just plain stupid to being with. I mean what right does anybody have telling me what lane I can drive in and what speed I can do in the lane I am in. You'd think that people had someplace to go and no time to get there the way they try to drive up my butt. Their all a bunch of morons who don't know how to drive and don't deserve to share the road with me anyway. If they want to pass me they can just do it on the shoulder or wait. Stupid dick head speeders anyway, what right do they have when I am already doing the speedlimit, I am not moving just to let them go faster. Bite me!:D
 
Move over laws are just plain stupid to being with. I mean what right does anybody have telling me what lane I can drive in and what speed I can do in the lane I am in. You'd think that people had someplace to go and no time to get there the way they try to drive up my butt. Their all a bunch of morons who don't know how to drive and don't deserve to share the road with me anyway. If they want to pass me they can just do it on the shoulder or wait. Stupid dick head speeders anyway, what right do they have when I am already doing the speedlimit, I am not moving just to let them go faster. Bite me!:D

^^^+2 on that, Bro. I hate it as well. If I am doing 70 (the speed limit) and I am driving on the freeway if somebody comes up on me that means they are going faster then I am. They are the ones breaking the law. Another thing I really hate is when I see signs that say 'Trucks right lanes only' and there are truckers that are passing and moving over into the left lanes and cutting off drivers and causing other drivers to have to move or slow down in a dangerous way. I really hate that!!!!! Ahhhhhhhhh.......
 
My turn......

in my area, driving in the passing lane is now against the law (it keeps the "squatters" from causing moving traffic jams on our interstates)

HOWEVER...now the speeders can run at 90mph instead of 80mph cause they don't have to dodge the Squatters any more....

In cities, roads have been widened from 2-lane roads to 6-lane expressways to help city traffic flow better...

HOWEVER...in the city, the same Squatters still manage to get side-by-side on a six-lane exprrssway and slow the 65mph traffic down to 45mph....

IMAGINE THAT!

RANT-TIME....AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK THERE'S ENUFF SORRY SQUATTERS IN LOO-Z-ANNA THAT THE ROADS COULD BE WIDENED TO 16 LANES EACH WAY---AND THE SQUATTERS WOULD STILL MANAGE TO GET SIDE-BY-SIDE!

there...i feel better now...
I think most states have laws regarding keeping right except to pass, I never see it enforced and see cops guilty of left lane camping.


Move over laws are just plain stupid to being with. I mean what right does anybody have telling me what lane I can drive in and what speed I can do in the lane I am in. You'd think that people had someplace to go and no time to get there the way they try to drive up my butt. Their all a bunch of morons who don't know how to drive and don't deserve to share the road with me anyway. If they want to pass me they can just do it on the shoulder or wait. Stupid dick head speeders anyway, what right do they have when I am already doing the speedlimit, I am not moving just to let them go faster. Bite me!:D
Sheep don't belong in the left lane.

And I WILL pass you on the shoulder if you fawk with me long enough and there's room to do so.
 
But you only get caught when you are spotted by a cop for not wearing a seatbelt.

How else are they supposed to catch you?

Another thing I really hate is when I see signs that say 'Trucks right lanes only' and there are truckers that are passing and moving over into the left lanes and cutting off drivers and causing other drivers to have to move or slow down in a dangerous way. I really hate that!!!!! Ahhhhhhhhh.......

I agree, WAAAAY too much of this going on in Utah. Two of them pricks get side by side on our two lane highway nearly every day on my way to work. The highway has a couple of stoplights, and they like stopping side by side at the light, hogging the whole road.
 
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In their defense I have had people match my speed halfway through the pass which kind of puts the passer in an awkward position. Up the speed and get around the guy or slow down, admit defeat and run the risk of them pummeling you with rocks...

Of course during the rut I have been known to reduce speed and let them run blocker. :icon_twisted:

If I am passing a string of cars and somebody flies up behind me they will wait until I get an opening to get over. If they don't like it they can go pound sand for all I care, I am not going to force an opening to let them by. I am not taking time out of my day because somebody couldn't plan ahead and thus has to run 20 over because they might miss their hair appointment. That said I don't run side by side with another vehicle down the road, it makes me nervous.
 
Move over laws are just plain stupid to being with. I mean what right does anybody have telling me what lane I can drive in and what speed I can do in the lane I am in. You'd think that people had someplace to go and no time to get there the way they try to drive up my butt. Their all a bunch of morons who don't know how to drive and don't deserve to share the road with me anyway. If they want to pass me they can just do it on the shoulder or wait. Stupid dick head speeders anyway, what right do they have when I am already doing the speedlimit, I am not moving just to let them go faster. Bite me!:D

Gee....i....never looked :icon_surprised: at it like.....that!
 
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Originally Posted by GoodOld85BlueBalls
Move over laws are just plain stupid to being with. I mean what right does anybody have telling me what lane I can drive in and what speed I can do in the lane I am in. You'd think that people had someplace to go and no time to get there the way they try to drive up my butt. Their all a bunch of morons who don't know how to drive and don't deserve to share the road with me anyway. If they want to pass me they can just do it on the shoulder or wait. Stupid dick head speeders anyway, what right do they have when I am already doing the speedlimit, I am not moving just to let them go faster. Bite me!


"They're all a bunch of morons"
Who's the moron? :thefinger:





there....i took care of him for ya GoodOld_
 

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