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Speeding ticket help


nate12346

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So yeah, I got a speeding ticket going 52 in a 35..... UPHILL!!.....THERE IS NO WAY MY POS TRUCK CAN DO THAT!!! I cant even get it up to 55 on I-25 to get to work.

Man I'm PISSED

ARGGGGGG.... I shoulda just backed into his motorcycle and crawled all over it with my lift and big tires and said. " I can't go 55, But I can do this!!! BWAHAHA":3gears:

But seriously, I was kinda sceptical to sign the ticket but the popo said sign it so i did, I didnt want him to whip out his tasser lol. I asked him where he clocked me and he was like, Oh up that big hill right before you turned...not to mention, he pulled me over about a mile and a half away from where he clocked me. I even made a chart that i taped to my dash a few months ago to show the speed difference in my 31's so i know im not speeding.

Im going to court, but is there any ways i can prove to the judge that the cop is wrong? HELP ME

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Sad thing is, I was on my way to pick up an 8.8 and 4.56 gears so i can do 55 uphill lol
 
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most the time if u dont say that u speed the judge gets annoyed and makes u pay, but if the cop dosent show up ur in luck, u might get off scott free. u might make a video showing what gear ur in and showing ur speedo to see how fast ur going, but it has to be right or theyll slap u with another ticket for driving with ur speedo off.
 
You're probably screwed. He's a sworn officer of the state and you are a chump. If you tell the judge about your tires/speedo he's going to assume you are the one that screwed up no matter what you do. By the number of state police and sheriff deputy and city police cars that are parked around our courthouse, I think they set an officer's court dates to a certain date and he is required to be there to witness his evidence.
 
Did you ask to see the radar gun read out?

You can ask to see the read out and fight it if you were legal.

AND:

Check to see when the last time the gun was calibrated. I think it's every 6 months, and if it's not up to date, the ticket can be revoked.

Good luck, man. And I-25 blows not matter what. Especially between I76 and 38th Ave.
 
In Louisville its called a "zing" anything over "15 over" and its more money. My lawyer told me that, SO he changed it to a broken headlight (defective equipment) instead of speeding. Nobody cared, they got there money and I didn't loose any points.and the lawyer went to court for me.
 
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yeah try and get records for the calibration of the gun. If its been some time you might get lucky
 
Hmm.... Is there a way i can ask my lawyer to find out about the calibration of the radar? Im sure i cant go researching myself due to laws and what not?
 
I'll ask my cop-pal tomorrow. I'll see what the Denver/Littleton steps would be.
 
Was it Radar or Laser?

There has to be calibration records indicating when he checked the calibration of the radar and when the radar was calibrated. He should have a log of when he checked it. Probably written on his copy of the ticket. He should have a certificate that he's certified, records of when he checked the calibration, records of when the unit was actually calibrated by a tech, records for the certification of the tuning forks. When were the tuning forks last checked? Was it stationary radar or moving? Probably stationary. If it was moving then you have to have the certificate for the speedometer showing it's calibrated. When running moving radar the radar sends out two signals. One picks up the ground speed and one picks up the closing object speed. The ground speed displays as the patrol speed. The counting unit of the radar deducts his ground/patrol speed to the closing speed to give him your speed. His ground speed has to match the speed on his certified speedometer. If he's moving too slow the radar can screw up only and show the combined speed in the target window. This is why it's difficult to run moving radar driving through a school zone. You can tell though by the patrol speed readout. Also, if he was too close to the back of a large vehicle in front of him going down a highway, the radar could be geting it's ground speed from the back of that vehicle. If he's doing 55 and the truck was doing 50, it could get a false reading of 5 mph from his closing speed to the vehicle and add the remaining 50 mph to you.

If he was on a motorcycle he was probably stationary which has fewer errors to watch for. Any large neon signs around him? They say it can cause errors, but I've never seen it. Some talk about the angle of his radar to you if he's on the side of the road. Actually, anything other than straight on reduces the target speed (slightly).

Basically my advise is:

1) Go to court. There is a small chance he won't show to get paid his minimum contractural overtime (probably atleast 3 hours even if he's there 1).

2) Ask for certificates for the operator (cop), radar, tuning forks and record of calibration. You'd be surprised at how many departments don't keep good records, can't afford maintenance or proper training of their officers.

3) Don't admit to anything over the speed limit. If he says 52 and you say you were doing no more than 40, the judge will find you guilty of doing 40 in a 35.

4) Stay away from discussing speed, tire sizes and what you think your speedometer really means. The court will eat you alive.

5) The prosecutor will eventually want to talk to you. Tell him/her that your truck is a POS that doesn't run that well, you know you weren't going that fast and complain about getting points on your license and a big fine. The prosecutor may offer you a no point violation and reduced fine to clear the docket and keep from going to court. The cop will agree to it because he hates testifying and he's getting more overtime than what he's actually working. See #1 above.

6) Unless you lose time from work, it's not going to cost you anymore to go to court.

The cop is required to:

Explain the calibration check, when it was done and the operation of the radar.
Visual identification of your vehicle and visual estimation of your speed
Confirm his estimation by the use of radar
Maintain a tracking history until you pass him to ensure he was clocking you and not someone behind you.

I doubt you'll win unless it's a cop with a bad rep with the court or completely unprepared. Your best bet is to hope for a deal on something lesser to avoid a trial. Judge would probably rather be playing solitare on his computer at the bench or leaving early because nothing is left on the docket.

Good luck.

oh...one last thought for whoever....

If a cop stops you for speed from moving radar, look at the radar. There should be two speeds. One for his, one for yours. Radars have a feature to shut off the display for the 'patrol' speed and only show the 'target' speed. Have them turn it back on if your only shown one speed from moving radar. He probably blocked it so you wouldn't see he was speeding too.
 
wow jim.....that was awesome!!!! good advice man, good advice and good luck!!!!


i have gotten only one speeding ticket in my life, i was in an rx7 doing 95 in a 55, i paid the 400 dollar ticket, took the points and grew up. now i dont speed anymore, i set the cruise control at 55 or 65 if im on the highway and i just make sure that i have enough time to get to where im going, i found out that once i started driving the speed limit all the time...i stopped getting pulled over...
 
If a cop stops you for speed from moving radar, look at the radar. There should be two speeds. One for his, one for yours. Radars have a feature to shut off the display for the 'patrol' speed and only show the 'target' speed. Have them turn it back on if your only shown one speed from moving radar. He probably blocked it so you wouldn't see he was speeding too.

Cool, I didn't know that. I fought the last ticket I got, radar, the ticket did show the serial number and last calibration date for the radar gun. I was speeding, not by much, but it was a blatant speed trap and I was pissed off about it. It looked to me like it worked this way: All of Officer X's cases were scheduled for the same morning, so ba-da-bing we blow everybody through and take up less of his time so he can get back to running radar traps. I WAS going to argue it based on the fact that the speed limit signs were too far apart as per the PA traffic code (signs must be no more than one-half mile apart or the posted speed is "not enforceable", at 3.5 miles these weren't even close) but before I could start the magistrate cut me off and offered me 60 in a 55 and no points. Bird in the hand being two in the bush, I took it, but they obviously didn't want to spend any time arguing my case.
 
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I was just looking over my ticket and found out that the cop spelled my name wrong on it. Can I use that against him?

Im not usually like this about tickets and im very respectfull to the law. I got a speeding ticket a year ago and got off scott free just paying the court fee, but this cop was an ass to me. He was looking all over my truck for other things to get me on. He litteraly got on his hands and knees looking under my truck for anything to add on. He almost got me for having a Glass Pack exhaust, but then i showed him the muffler I had in the back of my truck that I put in yesterday and he just gave me a nasty look.
 
Great advice Jim!

remember, theres no such thing as "public saftey", its all about revenue generation.

YES, that's for sure....I call em revenuers, not police!

Did you ask to see the radar gun read out?

You can ask to see the read out and fight it if you were legal.

AND:

Check to see when the last time the gun was calibrated. I think it's every 6 months, and if it's not up to date, the ticket can be revoked.

Good luck, man. And I-25 blows not matter what. Especially between I76 and 38th Ave.

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