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Sheet metal work tips????


Mightyfordranger

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I have not done much sheet metal work before I can weld decent imo but any and all tips will b helpful and keep in mind I don't have much money for things like an English wheel etc if u have an setup that works awesome PLEASE!!! Help a guy out I have to patch in a new cab floor in my first gen thanks!!:icon_welder::icon_thumby:
 
pre made patch panels.

Actually not even sure if you can get them, used them on a 65 mustang made it much simpler.
I think learning on the floor is perfect. If it starts a little rough around the edges it will mostly be hidden and you will get better as you go. Go find a book on body work or just research online and you can pick up lots of info.

and above all have fun, the learning process was fun for me and I'm still trying to figure the body work thing out to a large degree.
 
Thanks I'll hit up my local library and is that a b2 with a ranger back window if so u just gave me my solution to a prob with my buddies b2 the last owners sawzawed the top off left just the cab part
 
Thanks I'll hit up my local library and is that a b2 with a ranger back window if so u just gave me my solution to a prob with my buddies b2 the last owners sawzawed the top off left just the cab part

no....studying sheet metel and structure is needed to take the top off.....it will fall apart if you dont beef up a b2 after roof removal...


floor are easy enough if you can weld.....its metel....

one piece at a time bud:icon_thumby:

my floors and structures are not stock....but one piece at a time
 
Yeah, I cut the back window support out of my single cab after two years of driving and then peeled down the rear wall...just so I could lean my seat back two inches...

On a single cab that didn't weaken the integrity of the cab too much, but it would have been more damaging if I'd removed the front wall of the box...I only cut it down a bit...and then folded everything over itself and bolted it all down...

A BII as you probably know by now is all one piece and the roof part helps keep the body from twisting so your windows don't pop out...sort of like when you squeeze a squirrel...not that I've ever done that...but you get the idea...

What Kayakcrazy did would bolster the whole cab and sides of the body...if done right...and since I haven't seen the build I would have to assume that it was and they knew how to do it...

What I did was one step short of having the truck shake itself apart and leave a trail of pieces...especially going over 200 km/hr...fortunately, my truck could barely make 100...but it looked much faster!
 
Mightyfordranger, I've been in the autobody/refinish field over 35 years, if your going for the floors then get some poster board and make your templates from that, ranger floors are pretty simple somewhat flat with curved edges and a few kicked up areas near the seat mounts. Cut out your rusted areas with what ever you have, 4" angle grinder works well with the cut off wheels, take yor seat out if the rust goes up under the mounts. just remove whats needed. measure your templates about an 1" or 2" larger then you can trim to fit, all this can be done with the poster board just like the steel. steel will be 18 to 20 guage. or scrap sheet metal from an old hood. Once you get a test pan made and it fits, transfer to sheet metal which is not as forgiving but as you tack it into place the heat will soften it and a hammer works to get it into the shape, continue to tack about every few inches, use sheetmetal screws to help get the panel tight together to the old floor joints. Stagger your tack welds around the perimeter to keep heat from warping. Once you satisfied and the floor is stiff, use autobody seam sealer or gutter sealer to seal the seam, and undercoat the underside heavy, rattle can the inside then a light coat on top as well, it drys quick. floors don't have to be pretty, but they should strengthen the repair area. Good luck, this is how we learn! :-) UNHOOK BATTERY
 
Mightyfordranger, I've been in the autobody/refinish field over 35 years, if your going for the floors then get some poster board and make your templates from that, ranger floors are pretty simple somewhat flat with curved edges and a few kicked up areas near the seat mounts. Cut out your rusted areas with what ever you have, 4" angle grinder works well with the cut off wheels, take yor seat out if the rust goes up under the mounts. just remove whats needed. measure your templates about an 1" or 2" larger then you can trim to fit, all this can be done with the poster board just like the steel. steel will be 18 to 20 guage. or scrap sheet metal from an old hood. Once you get a test pan made and it fits, transfer to sheet metal which is not as forgiving but as you tack it into place the heat will soften it and a hammer works to get it into the shape, continue to tack about every few inches, use sheetmetal screws to help get the panel tight together to the old floor joints. Stagger your tack welds around the perimeter to keep heat from warping. Once you satisfied and the floor is stiff, use autobody seam sealer or gutter sealer to seal the seam, and undercoat the underside heavy, rattle can the inside then a light coat on top as well, it drys quick. floors don't have to be pretty, but they should strengthen the repair area. Good luck, this is how we learn! :-) UNHOOK BATTERY

Wow, a 10 minute all you need to know fix! Good information and thank you for posting that...I was about to replace a small section of my floor just behind the seat but I wasn't sure how I was going to go about it exactly...

:icon_thumby::icon_thumby: + Rep for you!
 
Mightyfordranger, I've been in the autobody/refinish field over 35 years, if your going for the floors then get some poster board and make your templates from that, ranger floors are pretty simple somewhat flat with curved edges and a few kicked up areas near the seat mounts. Cut out your rusted areas with what ever you have, 4" angle grinder works well with the cut off wheels, take yor seat out if the rust goes up under the mounts. just remove whats needed. measure your templates about an 1" or 2" larger then you can trim to fit, all this can be done with the poster board just like the steel. steel will be 18 to 20 guage. or scrap sheet metal from an old hood. Once you get a test pan made and it fits, transfer to sheet metal which is not as forgiving but as you tack it into place the heat will soften it and a hammer works to get it into the shape, continue to tack about every few inches, use sheetmetal screws to help get the panel tight together to the old floor joints. Stagger your tack welds around the perimeter to keep heat from warping. Once you satisfied and the floor is stiff, use autobody seam sealer or gutter sealer to seal the seam, and undercoat the underside heavy, rattle can the inside then a light coat on top as well, it drys quick. floors don't have to be pretty, but they should strengthen the repair area. Good luck, this is how we learn! :-) UNHOOK BATTERY


thanks j bird.....this is what i refer to when i say one piece at a time.


not putting on all new pre made parts like jhonny cash and the pyscobilly cadillac.

i use paper/cardboard templates and a cut off wheel for the most part.


though i do have a plasma cutter.


it aint pretty.....but its stronger then it was.
 
Wow quite a bit of info thanks guy when I go to tackle the task I'll post up pics here and my build thread for all cratque (if I spelled that right) big thanks to jbird and bwalter!!
 
When I did my floor rust issue I cut out the bad and pop-rivet in a fresh piece of steel, then body-sealer and couple coats of paint
 
Thanks I'll hit up my local library and is that a b2 with a ranger back window if so u just gave me my solution to a prob with my buddies b2 the last owners sawzawed the top off left just the cab part

MY back is actually the rear hatch from an explorer. Not a perfect match but with a little massaging it came out pretty good. I used that because its metal and could weld it in place. The rear window opens and can be easily removed which is fun especially at the beach.

Not knowing how the original cut was on your buddies I cant say but I was able to retain all the roof support that was at the rear of the cab and added support below the rear window line. I also welded in inner fenders in the bed part to add support as well.
Much of mine was learning as I went but it seems to have held up well.
 
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