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sems to me that toyota needs more creativity


My interior is the same as the last two Ford pictures shown, and the gauges work just fine. I highly doubt Toyota has mechanical gauges in their vehicles...

BTW, I also have a stick on the floor for 4x4...

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My interior is the same as the last two Ford pictures shown, and the gauges work just fine. I highly doubt Toyota has mechanical gauges in their vehicles...

BTW, I also have a stick on the floor for 4x4...

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WTF! Wheres the second stick. You can't have just one. Wished Ford still offered it like that.

Here is something that I always liked on the GM's. Their guages not only work they should, but they have numbers labeled too. Instead of the sweeping range of normal.

Not to put down Ford's. Can't beat the ever lasting toughness of them.
 
WTF! Wheres the second stick. You can't have just one. Wished Ford still offered it like that.

Here is something that I always liked on the GM's. Their guages not only work they should, but they have numbers labeled too. Instead of the sweeping range of normal.

Not to put down Ford's. Can't beat the ever lasting toughness of them.

Not only can I not get one, I wouldn't get one anyway. For the 4.2 and 4.6 it was an option though.

The gauges on dad's '92 GMC might have numbers, but they still don't always work right. Kinda nervewracking to watch the oil pressure flick peg to peg for no reason before reading what I can assume to be right in the middle.
 
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It amazes me we are in the 21st century and still have inaccurate dash gauges. A manifold vacuum gauge should also be std.
 
Honestly people I seriously like Not having to Stop the truck to switch to 4x4. As much as you guys like the stick. I have to disagree. the button is far more utility then the stick.

My driving can go from good pavement to bad snow or ice fairly often not having to stop and switch. +++++ :yahoo:
 
Honestly people I seriously like Not having to Stop the truck to switch to 4x4. As much as you guys like the stick. I have to disagree. the button is far more utility then the stick.

My driving can go from good pavement to bad snow or ice fairly often not having to stop and switch. +++++ :yahoo:

the manual stick can shift on the fly if you use it correctly (like not shifting with the throttle on the floor). The reason we like it is because it puts it in control of the driver rather than a computer. This does require that the driver know what they're doing, which is not always the case, and is why push button 4x4 was invented.
 
the manual stick can shift on the fly if you use it correctly (like not shifting with the throttle on the floor). The reason we like it is because it puts it in control of the driver rather than a computer. This does require that the driver know what they're doing, which is not always the case, and is why push button 4x4 was invented.

I like it because it always works, will always work, and will only not work if both your arms are broken (but then you have even worse problems)... Unlike power door locks, and power windows, and electric shift t-cases, and power sunroofs, and automatic transmissions...
 
the manual stick can shift on the fly if you use it correctly (like not shifting with the throttle on the floor). The reason we like it is because it puts it in control of the driver rather than a computer. This does require that the driver know what they're doing, which is not always the case, and is why push button 4x4 was invented.

I could shift my "floor shifted" Tacoma in and out of 4wd @ 100mph..... just use the clutch...... My 94 Silverado has a floor mount and can also be shifted at any speed...... Nature of the design of an axle with a CAD.

you want to shift your BW 13-54m on the fly ...... leave the hubs locked in.
 
Honestly people I seriously like Not having to Stop the truck to switch to 4x4. As much as you guys like the stick. I have to disagree. the button is far more utility then the stick.

My driving can go from good pavement to bad snow or ice fairly often not having to stop and switch. +++++ :yahoo:

In my '85 Ranger's manual it states that you can engage the 4x4 at any speed up to 55mph as long as both axles are turning the same speed. Dunno why you would need 4x4 at that kind of speed though...

It does kind of stink when you get caught with the hubs locked out on it, but usually you can plan ahead so you are not wading thru crap to lock them in. When it was my dd I left the hubs locked in during the winter so 4x4 would be ready at a moments notice... the same as your automatic hubs are unless you back up to unlock them each time you turn off the 4x4.

And again, as long as the axles are turning the same speed I can shift my F-150 on the fly... it doesn't have hubs. The lever is a replacement for the motor on the transfer case, the computer still runs the CAD to engage the front axle. It works great for me, just don't try to tug the lever when you are spinning the rear tires or you will break the shift fork in the front end... but a push button will do the same thing.
 
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