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rebuild on 86 b2


broncobuckinaround

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hey guys. im doing a rebuild on my b2 next month. and i was wondering about the break in period. i need to know the best methods to take. exp. how many miles drivin. what rpm range. how fast can i go to not hurt the engine. how many mph can i drive
 
When you start the engine, run it about 20 minutes. So make sure everything is ready for a 20 minute run. Raise the idle such that its at about 2K rpms. Then turn it off. Double check everything, then go for a ride. Vary your speeds. I wouldn't go for an expressway ride, just around town where you can change speeds a lot. Its best this way IMO. Then after 100 miles, change the oil and filter. Then . . have at it.
 
Whatever you do be sure to add the zinc fortified break-in oil. No zinc, no cam. Ask me how I know.
 
thx guys. im guessing you found out you had to use the zinc oil because you burned up a cam already.

now what is the best break-in oil to use. and can i get at oreilly or autozone. there is a carquest where i live.

does any one know of a horrible sound i looking for when i first start it up.

oh and how do you sypher which fuel pump is going out.
 
I would suggest getting Rotella and then buying a break-in additive, which will contain lots of zinc.
 
is that safe to run in a gas engine. i know rotella is for diesel engines.
 
is that safe to run in a gas engine. i know rotella is for diesel engines.


check the label on the oil. If you see a rating that states "API" with a two letter prefix? It can be used in a gas engine. I did some research a few posts ago on this one. I run Shell Rotella 5w40 in our BII. Diesel oil... One web site said not to, due to the high amounts of zinc that could ruin the cat converter used on a gas engine. According to shell's own spec sheet? If it's got the API rating (I think they are up to SN at this point) It should run in a gas engine fine.

Category SM were introduced in October 2010 for 2011 and older vehicles, designed to provide improved high temperature deposit protection for pistons, more stringent sludge control, and seal compatibility. API SN with Resource Conserving matches ILSAC GF-5 by combining API SN performance with improved fuel economy, turbocharger protection, emission control system compatibility, and protection of engines operating on ethanol-containing fuels up to E85

http://www.upmpg.com/motor_oil_rate_gas.htm

Very nice information. Had to fix a typo on the quote. LOL. (props to the website)



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Absolutely safe. If you don't know how to read the specs on a can of oil, I suggest you learn. All the things about a car/engine, you should understand.
 
nicely put. i do understand mostly what i read on oil cans. thx for the info it will help well.

now on a different subject. my 86 b2 2.9 auto has low fuel pressure. and im not sure how to sypher which one it is. is there a cool trick to this
 
oh and how do you decipher which fuel pump is going out.

to test a pump that hasn't failed but is going out is tricky one to pin down. the way i like to do it is to check the capacity of max that each pump is able to put out

the in tank pump dead-head should peak at 6psi (or more, it is rated at 6 peak). the high pressure should dead-head peak at 99psi

check the pressure before the high pressure pump to check the in-tank pump

block the return line and check at the rail to check the high pressure pump
don't hold them dead-head any longer than to see what pressure the pump reaches, and stops climbing, a few seconds at most


break in procedures are like butt-holes, everyone has their own, they are each a little different, but they all get the job done just fine
either way be sure to watch for oil pressure drops

i have well over 100 engines under my belt, a flat-tappet camshaft needs to be fired up, wait for oil pressure, and take it to 3k and hold it for the first 5-10 minutes

the cam needs oil to break in without scarring, under 3k the pump won't pump near as much as it does over 3k

due to recent epa restrictions on ZDDP content, literally all oils available across the normal parts counter don't have enough ZDDP for a flat-tappet cam.

i run the redline break in additive not only on break in, but with every oil change.
be mindful that additives such as "Z-MAX" that say "Zinc replacement" or "zinc substitute" don't actually have zinc in them.

of the over-the counter oils, diesel oils have the most ZDDP, i use Mobil DELVAC 15W40 for this reason.
the reason the EPA has dropped ZDDP allowances to 500ppm or less (even diesel oils have seen a drop in their allowances) is to keep unwanted metals out of the cats, which would get there when the 3-micron thick layer of oil left on the cylinder wall after the piston goes down burns off and goes out with the exhaust.....i'm not worried, how about you?
 
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You have a low pressure pump in tank that delivers the fuel to the front pump. The front pump is the high pressure pump. What is the fuel pressure at the rail? Did you unplug the vacuum from the regulator and test?
 
thx cam. lots of good info.

pete, i have not done that. i wasnt even going to tamper with it much til i got the cash to fix it with.

i have noticed tho when i turn the key i can hear a soft buzzing noise coming from the front pump. i know that with age the pumps do get pretty quite, but could be the signs of being worn out. lol i did that before i had everything taking apart.

from what camm said the rear pump being only 6psi isnt much so i dont think it would make much noise.

do you think it would just be smarted to just replace both pumps. its been sitting for two years before i got a hold of it. so bad gas prob messed up everything.

oh and another question. are 19lbs injectors safe to use with the 2.9 if i had msd ignition stuff. i know the full size broncos have them and they are a direct fit in the b2's. just wondering cause id like to put them in my b2
 

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