Rear Brakes

[strugbus]

Many people like the one that adsm08 posted... I have owned and used the plier style for nearly 40 years... and they just feel the best to me.

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I have had this in my toolbox for 5 years without knowing what it was. a gift from my later father in law. Thanks for the explanation!

 

[rumblecloud]

Awesome! I'll be referring to this when I do mine.

(I hope that's not your living room carpet)

 

[sheep herder]

Here's a photo of a right side brake assy from a Torsen rear with the axle removed. It's easier to see the components with the flange out of the way.View attachment 53935

Note that this is upside down from the installed position.

 

[Curious Hound]

Note that this is upside down from the installed position.

It wants to be that way. Every time I flip my phone around, the brake assembly flips back to being upside down.

 

[Rimjam]

Here's a right-side-up photo (I hope).

 

[Curious Hound]

 

[rumblecloud]

Just looking at that contraption I'm amazed it even works at all -- I mean who in there right mind could imagine putting something like that together? Seven or eight springs, a star wheel and a hydraulic cylinder. And for good measure let's add an ABS sensor.

Anyone have any idea how old this design is?

 

[Curious Hound]

Just looking at that contraption I'm amazed it even works at all -- I mean who in there right mind could imagine putting something like that together? Seven or eight springs, a star wheel and a hydraulic cylinder. And for good measure let's add an ABS sensor.

Anyone have any idea how old this design is?

But that's a simple machine.

 

[Uncle Gump]

Pretty much a 120 years ago...

1902
Considered as the foundation of the modern braking system, the mechanical drum brake was developed in 1902 by Louis Renault, a French manufacturer and a pioneer in the automobile industry.

 

[Roert42]

I think rear drums are easier to work on them rear disks. I hate the stupid screw locking cylinder thing.

 

[sgtsandman]

I think rear drums are easier to work on them rear disks. I hate the stupid screw locking cylinder thing.

I'm not a fan of rear disc brakes either. I do have to say that the setup on the 2019 is better than the one on the 2010-2011 even though it does have the rotating piston thing. I think rear drums are less maintenance intensive. Rear drums are harder to work on when they do need work. Pick your poison I guess.

 

[Dirtman]

The only thing that makes rear discs "complicated" is the integrated parking brake which is why the pistons screw in instead of just pushing in. I've never found them at all hard to work on once you buy the proper piston retractor tool. I think they are way better than drums which need routine maintenance to stay adjusted and functioning. Discs brakes rarely need any added maintenance in between pad change intervals.

Now if you really want to hate a set of rear brakes. Work on a jeep wrangler with rear discs AND drums for parking brakes. The drum portion cannot be worked out without pulling the axle shafts. Those and electronic parking brakes which require a damn computer to change the pads, cause you know... why not...

 

[Roert42]

Now if you really want to hate a set of rear brakes. Work on a jeep wrangler with rear discs AND drums for parking brakes. The drum portion cannot be worked out without pulling the axle shafts. Those and electronic parking brakes which require a damn computer to change the pads, cause you know... why not...

I've worked on drum in hat parking breaks before, but never electric ones. That is just ridiculous.

 

[sgtsandman]

The only thing that makes rear discs "complicated" is the integrated parking brake which is why the pistons screw in instead of just pushing in. I've never found them at all hard to work on once you buy the proper piston retractor tool. I think they are way better than drums which need routine maintenance to stay adjusted and functioning. Discs brakes rarely need any added maintenance in between pad change intervals.

Now if you really want to hate a set of rear brakes. Work on a jeep wrangler with rear discs AND drums for parking brakes. The drum portion cannot be worked out without pulling the axle shafts. Those and electronic parking brakes which require a damn computer to change the pads, cause you know... why not...

The 2010-2011 setup without the electronics is bad enough. At least you can still work on the parking brakes with the axles in. It sucks a lot but it can be done. Only a non-mechanic type person would think electronic parking brakes are a great idea. Because electric brakes in general have been so fantastically reliable on trailers all these years.... NOT!

 

[MikeG]

Friend of mine got run over by his own vehicle (not a Ford) when the electronic parking brake failed. A short time later there was a recall on that vehicle.....