Really MOPAR?

[adsm08]

Ok, I get that Chrysler has a reputation to uphold as a company that is run by abject morons from the top down, but today I learned something that just makes me want to fly out to Michigan, or Germany, or where ever the idiots that designed the 01 Grand Cherokee currently are and kick them all in the balls.

So, not only is it bad enough that Jeep puts a solid front axle in their top end SUV that in all reality maybe 2% of the vehicle population might actually see off-road time that even remotely warrants it, but the method of setting up the front end is just an absolute fail.

Unlike our camber/caster sleeves that can be put in and then turned with a wrench Jeep uses adjustable BALL JOINTS!!!! That's right, off-set, selective, adjustable ball joints. Which means that after you spent 3 hours replacing the ball joints, if it isn't set right when you are done the only way to adjust the camber or caster is to go back and TAKE IT ALL APART AGAIN!!!!! Then you have to carefully press the joint out (as if careful is a term that properly applies here), move it, and put it back in.

And to top this little rant off, these things apparently (according to a guy I work with who worked for MOPAR for 14 years) these things have ball joint issues.

I am so freaking glad that the stupid thing drove straight when I was done because dang it all if we weren't taking a barely educated guess about where to set it.

Also, they feel the need to put steering stabilizers on these things from the factory.




Who told these people they were allowed to make vehicles?

 

[Sasquatch_Ryda]

Yea thats pretty much normal with most dodge stuff.

 

[waynesburgjay]

I feel your pain, I got a chrysler sebring

 

[Sasquatch_Ryda]

Poor you, I hope you never have to replace the steering rack....

 

[COPPERHEAD85]

Ever have to replace the Cooling Fan Relay?
Its behind the Passenger side headlight,have to take the whole front cap off to get to it (or drill a 4'' hole behind the headlight).
Our 03 has been good to us thou,knock on wood.

 

[adsm08]

Poor you, I hope you never have to replace the steering rack....

Started doing that on an 05 Town & Country today.

I almost convinced my manager to send me to Chrysler school today. I work at a Ford dealer.

 

[Ranger Kip]

haha

 

[Ranger Dave (B25)]

I told y'all before, and I'll tell y'all again:

Chrysler products are garbage, disposable vehicles.

The average condom has a longer life-cycle than a Chrysler product.

 

[Jason]

Ok, I get that Chrysler has a reputation to uphold as a company that is run by abject morons from the top down, but today I learned something that just makes me want to fly out to Michigan, or Germany, or where ever the idiots that designed the 01 Grand Cherokee currently are and kick them all in the balls.

So, not only is it bad enough that Jeep puts a solid front axle in their top end SUV that in all reality maybe 2% of the vehicle population might actually see off-road time that even remotely warrants it, but the method of setting up the front end is just an absolute fail.

Unlike our camber/caster sleeves that can be put in and then turned with a wrench Jeep uses adjustable BALL JOINTS!!!! That's right, off-set, selective, adjustable ball joints. Which means that after you spent 3 hours replacing the ball joints, if it isn't set right when you are done the only way to adjust the camber or caster is to go back and TAKE IT ALL APART AGAIN!!!!! Then you have to carefully press the joint out (as if careful is a term that properly applies here), move it, and put it back in.

And to top this little rant off, these things apparently (according to a guy I work with who worked for MOPAR for 14 years) these things have ball joint issues.

I am so freaking glad that the stupid thing drove straight when I was done because dang it all if we weren't taking a barely educated guess about where to set it.

Also, they feel the need to put steering stabilizers on these things from the factory.




Who told these people they were allowed to make vehicles?

I have never seen a modern Jeep without a steering stabilizer from the factory. It helps with crappy dirt roads that they imagine the owners are going to be running down. It's more posturing than anything.

 

[Jason]

I told y'all before, and I'll tell y'all again:

Chrysler products are garbage, disposable vehicles.

The average condom has a longer life-cycle than a Chrysler product.

I'll agree on their cars. The rest seems to be as solid as Ford or GM.

 

[mentalbreakdown00]

So I take it you've never done a set of screw in ball joints on a dodge? I have a special $70 socket just for them, on the odd occasion I see one anymore....Just remember, it will always need Mo Parts

 

[igiveup]

So I take it you've never done a set of screw in ball joints on a dodge? I have a special $70 socket just for them, on the odd occasion I see one anymore....Just remember, it will always need Mo Parts

Hello

My 78 Dodge magnum had those balls joints. What a pain in the ass.

igiveup