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Radius arm question


pooreboy87

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I have an 87 ranger 2wd rclb and i was gona lift it using f150 coil springs and spring perches which should, if i what ive read is correct, should work and result in around 3 or 4 inches of lift in the front. My question is that if that did work out as planned, would my stock radius arms still work and function correctly or would i have to do somthing about that? and if the stockers dont work would f150 arms work?
thanks, jeff
 
if you want 3-4 " of lift you will need drop brackets for your axle pivots and your radius arms, you will also need a drop pitman. and FYI you will hate the ride the F150 coils give you.
 
O thanks for the info. Would i not have to change any of that stuff if i just got one or the other instead of both springs and perches? Would i be able to use f150 radius arms and beams instead of buying the brackets or could i build my own brackets?

O and my other truck(dd) is laid out with 20s, 35series tires and less than 2 inches of travel so just about anything will ride better than that lol.
 
you can run the f150 coils, and your stock radius arms. what you need to do is have the beams bent. this is the best way to do it, you dont have to run drop brackets. When we do them though, we usually modify the stock radius arm so that the caster is still correct after the lift. Where are you located?
 
Beams bent??? LMAO!!! I'm gonna sit back and watch this one unfold while keeping my yap shut and my opinions to myself.
 
Beams bent??? LMAO!!! I'm gonna sit back and watch this one unfold while keeping my yap shut and my opinions to myself.


I had a feeling someone would be weary of this around here. Out here in california where 2wd off road trucks are whats popular, we know how to build em and do it safely. Go ahead and keep your opinions to yourself, I speak from experience. Been building off road trucks for 10 years now. If you'd rather put drop down brackets on, go for it. Look up camburg racing or autofab, and tell those guys thier doing it wrong too lol.
 
Then tell me this.... why does FORD cast into the I beam that one is to NOT heat, cut or weld the I beam? I know it was done in the past... but there's a reason why it's not done anymore. It's a safety concern and for allignment, they make camber bushings. As far as Camburg, those are complete manufactured units ( and insanely priced I might add ). As far as Autofab, they specifically say that in the econo 2WD lift.... that they are not intended for off road use. That to me says something about the overall durability of the product. If you price out a complete kit from a manufacturer that makes kits, your further ahead using a bracket kit ( these kits also come with the longer brake hoses and shocks etc... not included in the autofab kit ). Now, I know I said I was gonna keep my yap shut and watch this unfold... but in all honesty, it's against my better judgment.
There... nuff said. I have spoke my peace and the original person that started this thread can do as he or she wants.
 
there is no problem with having beams bent the right way. most of the time people who want to run normal f150 coils want to lift on the cheap, and bending beams, is not cheap.

and as far as 2wd lifts not being for offroad, do you know what a pre-runner is?
 
There... nuff said. I have spoke my peace and the original person that started this thread can do as he or she wants.
 
Then tell me this.... why does FORD cast into the I beam that one is to NOT heat, cut or weld the I beam

keyword CAST. but if you know what your doing you can weld, heat and bend a cast beam with no problem....this was done from FORD for more than anything to keep clem and jeds mufflers and alinment from bending the beams for alinment...like was done on the old kingpin beams and mono beams.back when ford used FORGED ....



As far as Camburg, those are complete manufactured units ( and insanely priced I might add )

Not all of thier beams, only there billt end extened beams....camburg also bends stock beams, for thier stage one kit's.

As far as Autofab, they specifically say that in the econo 2WD lift.... that they are not intended for off road use. That to me says something about the overall durability of the product

autofabs ideal of off roading is flying threw the desert,and skipping a truck across the whoops.and for this you need limit straps and bumpstops.so you dont over compress the coils or jam a wheel in to the wheel wells.and so you dont pop out a coil on droop or rip a shock apart..

yeah ok, so you dont get brake lines...but you dont need a extened pitman arm ethier....
shocks. well there are so many options depending on your use and pocket book....
in this aspect of offroading you have to think of bent beams as a ercetor set.it comes as a basic simple my truck is lifted package...then you fit it to your taste/needs.

If you price out a complete kit from a manufacturer that makes kits, your further ahead using a bracket kit ( these kits also come with the longer brake hoses and shocks etc... not included in the autofab kit

yes a cheap dropbracket kit is cheaper...but in what other way are you ahead?....now your stuck with a street queen,that handles like shit like your on stilts,your one size all springs are cheap made, and not going to ride very well....the brake line kits you get are proably going to be cheap ones, that the fittings break off on.....your usually stuck with the cheapest shock on the market at the time..

Yes bent beam kits are not for everyone.But they are for the people who want bang for thier buck that they can upgrade as money permits.Just like lift brackets are not for everyone ethier......

now dont run away once you stired the pot...can you show me any performance type of 2wd kits that are drop brackets?


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now for the person who made this thread........

for 3-4inches of lift your going to need camber and caster corection, that you can not get from just turing you camber bushing all the way out.
to get this corection your going to need ethier bent beams and modified radius arms.......or a drop bracket lift kit that drops down the pivot points to the beams and the radius arms.

you can get levling kit that will level the truck about 2inchs...get's rid of the factory rake..and then use the camber busing to try and bring back the aliment the best you can....

or you can get some coil spring spacers or weld washers to make a spacer under the coil spring for about 2inchs of lift and still be get camber to a okish spec...but your going to lose your caster...

using f150 coils is going to feel like your driving a mid 70;s 1ton truck on the street.your going to feel ever bump in the road......

and no you can not use the f150 radius arms, the web in the beam on 2wd f150 is thicker than the web of the beam on a ranger so they radius arm will not mount up..well not with out some kind of funky spacer or something in between the radius arm and the beam.they are also a couple of inches longer.
 
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yes a cheap dropbracket kit is cheaper...but in what other way are you ahead?....now your stuck with a street queen,that handles like shit like your on stilts,your one size all springs are cheap made, and not going to ride very well....the brake line kits you get are proably going to be cheap ones, that the fittings break off on.....your usually stuck with the cheapest shock on the market at the time..

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Your Mommy buy you an Autofab lift for X-mas this year?:idiot:
 
Where are you located?

Im in southern delaware, so ya the likely hood of somebody locally having experience doing this is slim to none.



Well say i go with just the spring perches off a f150 and two inch blocks in the back for 2 inches all the way around, would 30x9.5 tires on 15x7 wheels fit without two much of an issue? ***i got the wheels and tires for free and there in a lot better shape than the stockers.
 
Yes. Those will fit. Only thing to watch for is the offset of the wheels. Try and stay with a 3 1/2 inch back spacing... no more than that and you will be fine. Having been there and done that, I can say that from experience.
As for my truck, I have much of the same as what your talking about for lift and ran that size without any issues. When I went to a 31X10.50X15 on a 15 X 8 wheel with 3.75 back spacing, I had/have issues. I'll soon be dealing with those issues with a 6" suspension lift using a BRACKET KIT of all things. Imagine that!
 
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