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Radiator


Can you post a picture of the clips?
 
Here they are. No scale there, but they're in the range of like 1/2-1".
Pretty sure I can re-use oem clips if that's what these are. Just didn't want to miss anything. Seems like the rad just sets in there with those 2 bolts I don't see what these could have to do with it.
I am just about to take out old rad, everything is loose.
Have to put in tensioner/belt before I put in new rad.
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Aren't those for helping hold the shroud on?
Edit; iirc those go on the bottom of the rad, the shroud slips into them, and then the top bolts go in.
 
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I kind of thought it was something like that. But when I put the shroud on it goes into grooves at the bottom so it can't flop around (and held at top by bolts of course). There wasn't any such thing on the ass'y I took out. Maybe they could go halfway up the sides, I'll check. But it seems totally secure. If there had been those clips, I would have had to take them out to get the shroud loose and I didn't have to do so. I'll check but I'm quite sure the shroud as it sets not cannot go anywhere (meaning, flop backwards at the bottom).

The tensioner was shot for sure, it came apart when I released the tension on it to get the drive belt off.
Side question, belt isn't directional, right? I didn't see any arrows on it.
New tensioner seems ok. It's a fair amount of stress on them, they come apart (when they break) where the outer case is attached to the body of them.

Did not replace bottom rad hose because it looked new and didn't exhibit any symptoms that manual lists to look for to decide if hose needs replacing. And it's a little hard to get to the engine-side clamp on that. After it was all together I questioned whether that was a good call. We'll see.

Turns out draining at rad stopcock doesn't really get out all the fluid to work on it. I mean, I realize about a gallon stays in there after you drain rad. I let it drain all night thinking, this will make it so when I take off bottom hose nothing will come out. Wrong! A sh*tload more comes out, luckily I was ready for it so it didn't go in my eyes.

Then when you take out rad and you may tilt it around a bit to get it out, yet more comes out. Big mess. I figure this is what the big cartons the rad comes in are for, you cut them open and lay under the truck so you're not laying in coolant.

When I tightened tensioner bolt it says 30-40 ft lbs but seemed like about 28 was extremely tight. I was afraid to go tighter. That's on my old torque wrench, I had picked up a new one at H.F., it read even lower, but I think it's bogus.
Anyway regardless of the reading I got it real tight on there I don't see how it could move.

Anyway, it's all buttoned up. One of the worst parts of this job is the cost of coolant. I don't ever re-use drained coolant.

One place to be really careful is threading in the trans cooler connectors. There are labels plastered on the rad, that if you strip the threads, don't send it back. You know how easy it is to carelessly start threading them at an angle. So I just do them by hand feeling and seeing that the threads are taking for a good few turns before I start wrenching on it. I don't know how tight they go by torque, but I put them good and tight, let's say, as tight as I dared. For both of them (the fitting into the rad, and the flare connector to the fitting).

Now to startup, check for leaks anywhere, check coolant consistency, top off. I hope that's all.
 
Well, I dunno, the shroud is totally immovable on there. There are grooves in the rad body that the shroud is pinned into. If you are talking about the middle of the bottom, I suppose you could put them there. I don't see the purpose.
 
It's possible the radiator is packaged to fit multiple applications and the clips just don't apply to yours. If there was nothing resembling them when you pulled your old radiator out and no obvious place to use them, I'd just stick in them in a drawer for a couple of months and move on.
 
those types of clips can also hold a piece of wire. i am not sure if they apply to this engine though.
 
No my rad didn't have those at all. The shroud is held in real well. I think they aren't needed for me.
 
I think they could be to hold shroud (not this truck), or hold wires, or maybe to hold overflow tube, you could bend them. For overflow clips I re-used existing they fit into holes the right size and place. I am basically 100% sure I don't need the clips, so they are just extra parts.

Rad is in, no leaks anywhere so far, so should be good to go! Thanks much for all the help.
 
It's possible the radiator is packaged to fit multiple applications and the clips just don't apply to yours. If there was nothing resembling them when you pulled your old radiator out and no obvious place to use them, I'd just stick in them in a drawer for a couple of months and move on.
yep, I am with fastpakr here. my radiator did not come with those, and I definitely don';t remember them on my truck. toss them in a drawer/ toolbox/ garbage can and move on. Glad you were able to get your lower trans line unbolted though. that was the living devil for me although a flare nut crows foot wrench might have been a huge help. did not know they existed. regular crows foot wrench did not work for me :(

AJ
 
Yes I had one crowfoot (regular type) I don't even remember why I had it. So when I looked them up, I found there are special ones to prevent this rounding-off of the connector that if you are like me you have probably done this a few times which of course then is a problem. The flare nut ones come almost all the way around the nut so there is no possible way it can slip and round it off. Mine are 3/8 drive so I put a 1/2" adapter and put my big breaker handle on it and it wasn't very hard to break loose but without it.... well, you know. Strongly suggest getting these.
Then once it's broke loose it's better to just use open end/fingers because as the crowfoot rotates you have to keep repositioning it. But you really only need it for breaking it loose. Or for the last tightening, at the end. One of the best $15 I ever spent. Along with hose clamp pliers with ratchet lock, they are made specifically for those spring clamps and they work fantastic.
 

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