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Quick power out of a 2.9???


no, upgrading the intake isnt going to help. 2.5" exhaust may sound neat...but also wont help power.

internally, you can bore the engine, which will help a tiny amount. a good P&P and gasket match will also help...a little. you could dump thousands into little upgrades for this motor and still have less than 200HP...or you could dump less than 1 thousand into forced induction and have over 200HP...its up to you.
 
A turbo for a 2.9? I would want a quick spooling one, for off road crawling purposes. It has been done on a 2.9, but it would be really tuff to get it running correctly



Not really...You can use the same tranny, exhaust, motor mounts, fuel pump/lines etc. So it can be cheaper and easier.

Quite honestly it wouldn't be cheaper. even if it was it wouldn't be much. although i agree it would be considerably easier. (i suppose, from what others have said.):icon_thumby:
 
no, upgrading the intake isnt going to help. 2.5" exhaust may sound neat...but also wont help power.

internally, you can bore the engine, which will help a tiny amount. a good P&P and gasket match will also help...a little. you could dump thousands into little upgrades for this motor and still have less than 200HP...or you could dump less than 1 thousand into forced induction and have over 200HP...its up to you.

by forced induction do you mean turbo? im cunfused with all this engine tech mumbo jumbo.(fairly new to cars, im 17, gimme a break.):icon_twisted:
 
Before you tackle a turbo project, you really should do some research. Purchase a couple reputable books about turbocharging. Understand the ins and outs of it. How to build your engine to handle it. What specs for a turbo you will need. There is a LOT more than taking a turbocharger and feeding it into the intake. I'm not trying to piss you off or be a jerk, but if you dont understand all this "engine tech mumbo jumbo" then turbocharging, er, reliably turbocharging your truck is out of the question until you educate yourself. I think you will be impressed with a 4.0L swap. Not that it is easy, but it is easier for a beginning mechanic like yourself to tackle than a turbo project.
 
a 50 trim T3 from a 80s 2.2/2.5 turbo dodge works great for a 2.9 or 4.0 actually. It spools wicked fast for great response and thats what you need i a truck to build torque. The 2.9/4.0Ls have a strong rotating assembly. keep the boost under 10psi and parts will stay alive theres no need to build a 2.9/4.0 for boost they already take boost just fine. There are a few options for tuning, stand alones, fmus, wideband o2s. The 2.9L setup is a speed density efi. The only wayt oget around it would be an aftermarket ecu or an adjustable FMU and using a wideband to dial in the AFRs. The oem wastegate that is on the turbododge T3 is set for 5 psi and thats what I run on my 4.0 daily driver. I also spent only 16$ on the turbo from a wrecking yard. There also all over ebay and craigslist....

If you do want to someday tackle turbocharging I sugest you do alot of research about the subject before you dig in. Know what you do before you do it.
 
m-m-maybe. the only struggle i encounter is the price being very similair to a 302 swap?
that is a myth. almost everything is custom fab on a 302 swap and if you want overdrive its even more $$. you can buy an exploder for 500$ and install everything with your eyes closed.including upgrades like the rear axle.the 5.0 will suck gas on the trail in comparison also(but be decent on the highway).
 
that is a myth. almost everything is custom fab on a 302 swap and if you want overdrive its even more $$. you can buy an exploder for 500$ and install everything with your eyes closed.including upgrades like the rear axle.the 5.0 will suck gas on the trail in comparison also(but be decent on the highway).

I realize you think it would be easier to do a 4.0 swap but i am doubtful. if i do a 4.0 swap i wont find a 5 speed exploder anywhere. even if i did, it wont be 500 bucks. i could consider a 4.0 from an aerostar which i could pick up for relatively cheap, but it would be auto and my current 2.9 5 speed is faster than 4.0 autos.
plus, i dont need offroad fuel milage its a 2wd, i just bomb through feilds and whatnot.
 
I realize you think it would be easier to do a 4.0 swap but i am doubtful.

From a mechanical stand point, 4.0L is easier. It fits already, but if you suck at wiring... A carbbed 302 would be easier in that there would be less wiring, but putting in the engine would require modification and some fabrication. An EFI 5.0L would be the hardest of the options, IMO. :) All depends on how you look at it.

Pete
 
Use the M5OD trans behind your 2.9L. It will bolt right up to a 4.0L. Its a good transmission, too. There are plenty of 4.0L rangers that have been totalled to the point where you could grab the drivetrain, electrical, and more for cheap. I have no first hand experience in turbocharging a 2.9L, but I do know a lot about the V8 Swap. How much would you be willing to spend? A 4.0L could be had and done for under $1000 with some time and research.

I've done the V8 swap. If you do choose that route, then be warned that there HAS to be a serious budget and a lot of research. There will be considerable downtime, also. If you go out and purchase a cheap car and switch everything over, you will be dissapointed. Most cheap cars ford built in the 80s and early 90s were less than 200hp (which is what you want out of your 2.9L). Say you pick up a 302 and C4 transmission. This combo would be the cheapest to run. Start with a seasoned block, inspect for trueness, no cracks, stress... You can get away with using the stock crank and connecting rods if you don't plan on major power or RPM. Keith Black makes some great entry level hypereutectic pistons for under $300. Take it to a machine shop, have them punch it 30 thousanths over and install new cam bearings, hot tank, blueprint, and the rest of the works. There's little use for the crappy E6 and E7 heads, so look for a used set of GT40 heads from a cobra mustang or Gen 1 Lightning (I've seen them for under $300). Do a nice street port and polish, then have a machine shop cut a 3 angle valve job. Find yourself a decent street cam to match the mild engine combo. Something from 1500-5500rpm should be enough. Go carbureted, since it is cheaper and easier. A nice edelbrock performer manifold will work smoothly with the cam and heads. Go with a nice reliable ignition system. Then, a 570-600cfm will be plenty to feed a 302 at 5500rpm. I would bet an easy 250rwhp from this combination (which is about double what your engine is throwing at the ground). A C4 is as common as a bic lighter, so use that. Find yourself an 8.8" rear out of a 4.0L ranger. This will be the cheapest and easiest to swap. I recommend long tube headers, but for budget shorties woud be okay. Find them for under $150. You will also need a radiator. A HD 4.0L will be fine for a mild 302, otherwise there are V8 rads. Honestly, I would say I have $8000 in my V8 ranger, but I also have an AOD 4speed auto with lentech's bells and whistles along with a pricey TCI torque converter. I think you could shave $1000 off if you went with a rebuilt C4.

Now, a 4.0L will be cheaper and easier. Look at the engine bay of the 4.0L donor vehicle. Take pictures, so you know where everything is located. Since you have a 2.9L already, the 4.0 will bolt into the chassis with 4.0L motor mounts. Use the 4.0s accessories and exhaust manifolds. Harvest the WHOLE harness from the donor vehicle. This will be a little tricky but with a haynes or chilton manual from both your truck and the donor vehicle, this shouldn't be too much work. The fun with a 4.0L is that you have the options of "go fast" parts where as their isn't a whole lot for the 2.9L. The 4.0L won't have as much power as a mild V8, but the price and difficulty will make for a better, easier, and more enjoyable swap.

You will learn a great deal from this. Then, a couple years down the road when you've had enough of the 4.0L and the truck isn't your daily driver anymore, go ahead and use the learning experience to drop in a 302. Hell, you get bored of that a couple years later and turn it to a high revving 331ci. Maybe you want a supercharged 351... the list goes on. We all dream, but you have to start somewhere. I built my first 302 when I was 14 with my father helping me via advice and plenty of books. Got it all together and it has low oil pressure. Well, it sounded great for the 15 seconds of break in before we tear it apart again only to find that I forgot the gasket that sits between the block and the oil pump.

Honestly bud, you have plenty of posts ranging from transmission trouble to extremes like turbocharging and V8 swaps. Start of easy and learn. There will be no fun in an engine swap if you don't know what you're up against. Not trying to argue with you, but you shot down the 4.0L idea. You show little knowledge of turbochargers and how they work (which is essential to doing a swap like that). You argue with the V8 swap because it will cost too much. Which leaves you with one more option, purchas a new vehicle with the powertrain you want. But, you won't do that because of sentimental value. To make it easier for you, I will just answer your question. Quick power from a 2.9??? Nitrous! Lots and lots of Nitrous. Make sure the race counts, because the 2.9L will only make it through a couple shots. (that is, at 200hp)
 
I realize you think it would be easier to do a 4.0 swap but i am doubtful. if i do a 4.0 swap i wont find a 5 speed exploder anywhere. even if i did, it wont be 500 bucks. i could consider a 4.0 from an aerostar which i could pick up for relatively cheap, but it would be auto and my current 2.9 5 speed is faster than 4.0 autos.
plus, i dont need offroad fuel milage its a 2wd, i just bomb through feilds and whatnot.

They aren't that hard to find. I have one that I drove every day until I picked up the Ranger. Mine's worth closer to $1500 (I hope), but there are plenty of parts donors out there for a lot less. It's a MUCH easier swap than a 302.
 
Re-gear, swap the engine or feed it boost, anything else and you're wasting your time.
 
From a mechanical stand point, 4.0L is easier.

The 4.0L won't have as much power as a mild V8, but the price and difficulty will make for a better, easier, and more enjoyable swap.

It's a MUCH easier swap than a 302.
its amazing to me that some people think the two swaps are comparable,the 4.0 is bolt in and cheap.no realignment needed.but then again its quite a chore for some to even get their old motor out.:icon_twisted:
 
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OH! wasn't aware this constituted as cold air intake! shows how much: i know..:icon_twisted:
well do you think an upgraded version would help at all? plus, would a 2 1/2" exhaust be wasteful, or would it help at all. plus, i am interested in more major upgrades. (gimme some advice on what would increase HP internally besides a rebuild)

I put a cone air filter on the stock intake tube on my 2.9L, it added some torque and some top-end speed :D Also I cut off the entire original exhaust from the collector back and put on 2-1/2 inch exhaust with a cherry bomb, and it added more power and sounds pretty good once it got "broken in" also things like fuel injector cleaner help to on these older 2.9's, as i have found out. So yea just food for thought
 

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