ya those things are junk, we got 1 set in my store for free to test out(i work at a parts store),they sent us plugs for my bosses audi a4 that he has all hoped up, more boost different computer tuning exhaust, i mean the works its a quick car and he ran stock iridium plugs(that what is stock in the audi) he installed those plugs, and his cars check engine light came on in within 5miles after install, ran like shit. we put the stock iridiums back in and it ran perfect again cleared the code all was good. he decided to try them one more time thinking something got knocked loose during the swap, but it did the same thing again ran like shit and engine light on. i would stay away from them especially at the price they want for that junk. just mine own experience though results do vary but doubt it