Prices

[James Morse]

It just seems to me that $25k for a 2011 Ranger even if low miles is just too much. Am I nuts or are they?
Have been refining my search and I think I'm looking for '05-'11 either Ranger XLT Supercab 4x4 w/ 4.0L or Mazda B4000 (later ones were all extended cab, 4x4, and 4.0L, production ended '08, there are some '09 but they are the same as '08). Nice thing about the Mazdas is they came loaded. Still pricey as can be though.
I think some prices may be starting to drop. Maybe I have to wait for the recession to hit.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

It just seems to me that $25k for a 2011 Ranger even if low miles is just too much. Am I nuts or are they?
Have been refining my search and I think I'm looking for '05-'11 either Ranger XLT Supercab 4x4 w/ 4.0L or Mazda B4000 (later ones were all extended cab, 4x4, and 4.0L, production ended '08, there are some '09 but they are the same as '08). Nice thing about the Mazdas is they came loaded. Still pricey as can be though.
I think some prices may be starting to drop. Maybe I have to wait for the recession to hit.

Wait for the recession.

25k for a 2011 ranger is totally out of line. I can buy a 2015+ F150 with less then 100k for 30

 

[Roert42]

$25k for a truck that is over a decade old to way too much.

I payed half of that for an ‘11 ranger 6 years ago. With 20k miles on it.

 

[James Morse]

"Yeah but" then I'd be out of the forum.
I haven't seriously looked at F150 yet but it's tempting because they probably have a better tow capacity depending on model.
I spent a lot of time w/ assistance here figuring out all the diff Rangers '98 to '11, can't find anything decent at a good price, and am at burnout now looking at the same stupid listings thinking something will show up but it's feeling like a lost cause.
Ranger appeals to me, F150's seem so huge but probably it's just what I'm used to.
Worst part of it is I love the '99, easy to work on, I am just about at the end of getting it so everything is working and good, I just want the 4x4 and probably the later 4.0L would be nice.
Probably have to wait until people who lost their money in stocks and are trying to recoup it through their vehicles are hurting enough.
I'd have to do a whole other research project as to what are the good F150's.
On the other hand being easy to fix maybe isn't such an issue if it's a newer truck and there's nothing to fix. I got plenty of stuff to do besides working on my truck, although I must say it's been rewarding to be able, with some help, to get things working.

 

[James Morse]

@Roert42 if we could only go back to 6 years ago... or 30 years ago....
sooner or later things have to change
'they' say there are now lots of new cars, problem now is people don't have the money to buy them and the interest rates are driving up the cost
of course that depends what model you're talking about... I don't see an excess of Mavericks, for example

 

[rusty ol ranger]

"Yeah but" then I'd be out of the forum.
I haven't seriously looked at F150 yet but it's tempting because they probably have a better tow capacity depending on model.
I spent a lot of time w/ assistance here figuring out all the diff Rangers '98 to '11, can't find anything decent at a good price, and am at burnout now looking at the same stupid listings thinking something will show up but it's feeling like a lost cause.
Ranger appeals to me, F150's seem so huge but probably it's just what I'm used to.
Worst part of it is I love the '99, easy to work on, I am just about at the end of getting it so everything is working and good, I just want the 4x4 and probably the later 4.0L would be nice.
Probably have to wait until people who lost their money in stocks and are trying to recoup it through their vehicles are hurting enough.
I'd have to do a whole other research project as to what are the good F150's.
On the other hand being easy to fix maybe isn't such an issue if it's a newer truck and there's nothing to fix. I got plenty of stuff to do besides working on my truck, although I must say it's been rewarding to be able, with some help, to get things working.

FYI, the newer F150s ive driven feel alot bigger to drive then even my 97 F250 HD.

They are nice trucks though. But if you go that route research reliabilty, cause the internet atleast seems to say they are riddled with problems no matter what drivetrain you get unless you go for the base 3.5 (non eco)

 

[sgtsandman]

People are taking advantage of a spike in the used vehicle market due to the limited availability of new vehicles. It's insane to say the least but people are paying it. I wouldn't but that's just me.

 

[James Morse]

How about the older (say '07-'15) F150, some had the 5.0L are they ok?
Seems like prices on F150 not really that diff than Rangers.
Looks like the unicorn is the Raptor, drooled over a few of those, looks like a nice interior. But again, pricey as all get out and almost seem more like a collector car at this point.
Really the only thing F150 would give me (in the right config) is more towing capacity, and that's an iffy thing anyway as to whether I'd ever do it. If I'm towing a trailer and 2400 lb car from what I read, that's pushing the limit on a Ranger even with tow pkg etc.
I wonder if upgraded Ranger with 5.0L and swapped trans has higher towing capacity. Wondering why they didn't offer the 5.0L since it fits. As in Ranger Raptor. Something like that.
News today says now there is going to be a glut of new cars (Ford, GM). Seems like has to drive down sell prices of both new and used. It'll be interesting to see where things are in 6 mos or a year.
What happened is from '03 to '09 Ranger sales dropped a whopping 2/3 give or take. So there are far fewer later trucks to choose from.
Seems like tons of F150 out there, in fact, it appears F150's were selling at a rate 10:1 over Rangers. Makes sense there are more to choose.
So I don't rule them out, but really, if I could find a nice B4 SE say '07-09 (or Ranger XLT supercab 4x4, which is about the same thing), towing aside, it would have everything I want, I think. Saw what looked like a decent one (75k miles) just north of here, but when I called the guy saying the pics didn't show everything, he said "I'll be honest with you, it's been used, and shows it." So I didn't even look at it. No hard sell there. Contrast to others pushing vehicles with salvage title as "hot" and "won't last long". Right.
Lot of Rangers coming in from Canada for some reason. I figure they seen a lot of salt, who knows. They are all overpriced too.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

How about the older (say '07-'15) F150, some had the 5.0L are they ok?
Seems like prices on F150 not really that diff than Rangers.
Looks like the unicorn is the Raptor, drooled over a few of those, looks like a nice interior. But again, pricey as all get out and almost seem more like a collector car at this point.
Really the only thing F150 would give me (in the right config) is more towing capacity, and that's an iffy thing anyway as to whether I'd ever do it. If I'm towing a trailer and 2400 lb car from what I read, that's pushing the limit on a Ranger even with tow pkg etc.
I wonder if upgraded Ranger with 5.0L and swapped trans has higher towing capacity. Wondering why they didn't offer the 5.0L since it fits. As in Ranger Raptor. Something like that.
News today says now there is going to be a glut of new cars (Ford, GM). Seems like has to drive down sell prices of both new and used. It'll be interesting to see where things are in 6 mos or a year.
What happened is from '03 to '09 Ranger sales dropped a whopping 2/3 give or take. So there are far fewer later trucks to choose from.
Seems like tons of F150 out there, in fact, it appears F150's were selling at a rate 10:1 over Rangers. Makes sense there are more to choose.
So I don't rule them out, but really, if I could find a nice B4 SE say '07-09 (or Ranger XLT supercab 4x4, which is about the same thing), towing aside, it would have everything I want, I think. Saw what looked like a decent one (75k miles) just north of here, but when I called the guy saying the pics didn't show everything, he said "I'll be honest with you, it's been used, and shows it." So I didn't even look at it. No hard sell there. Contrast to others pushing vehicles with salvage title as "hot" and "won't last long". Right.
Lot of Rangers coming in from Canada for some reason. I figure they seen a lot of salt, who knows. They are all overpriced too.

Ive heard the 11-17 5.0's with the 6sp are the most solid of the bunch. If you go back to 07 youre in 5.4 3v territory and i wouldnt touch one.

After 17 (2018MY) they redesigned the 5.0 and its had timing chain and oil burning issues as well as the 10sp trans shifting like shit.

The EB's from 11-16 were iffy, then after 16 they got good but got paired with the clunky 10sp.

So really 11-17 5.0's are pry safest bet.

 

[Snoranger]

Ive heard the 11-17 5.0's with the 6sp are the most solid of the bunch. If you go back to 07 youre in 5.4 3v territory and i wouldnt touch one.

After 17 (2018MY) they redesigned the 5.0 and its had timing chain and oil burning issues as well as the 10sp trans shifting like shit.

The EB's from 11-16 were iffy, then after 16 they got good but got paired with the clunky 10sp.

So really 11-17 5.0's are pry safest bet.

I’ve heard people complain about the 10 speed, I’ve never had an issue with either one I’ve owned or the dozens we have at work.

The only thing I’ve noticed is that when you try to accelerate from a cruising speed, the computer has to think about it, the trans has to downshift, then the engine will rev up. It’s a noticeable delay, but it’s no more then a second.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

I’ve heard people complain about the 10 speed, I’ve never had an issue with either one I’ve owned or the dozens we have at work.

The only thing I’ve noticed is that when you try to accelerate from a cruising speed, the computer has to think about it, the trans has to downshift, then the engine will rev up. It’s a noticeable delay, but it’s no more then a second.

Ive just read certain shifts can be very clunky. Not that they are failing at an A4LD-like rate.

The oil burning on the 5.0's i kinda wonder about too...most guys are bitching about a qt every 3k or sometimes even less (oil). I would consider that normal.

 

[Roert42]

I think the complaints about the 10spd boils down to, they have too many gears. People don’t want to have their transmission shifting all the time because they notice it.

They want a low rpm torque monster with a three speed. They way it feels the same no matter when they press on the go button.

 

[Blmpkn]

I think the complaints about the 10spd boils down to, they have too many gears. People don’t want to have their transmission shifting all the time because they notice it.

They want a low rpm torque monster with a three speed. They way it feels the same no matter when they press on the go button.

I love the 10 speed. Hated every auto I've driven before this one.. I boiled it down to the previous autos not having nearly enough gears lol.

It's extremely smooth the way I drive.

 

[racsan]

The hhr was always wierd when you would use the cruise control, hit “resume” and it would drop a gear and floor it until it got to the set speed, I couldnt drive it harder. The escape just gradually gets up there to whatever its set at and levels off.

 

[Roert42]

I can appreciate that. I’ve never driven a newer ranger, so I don’t know how it acts

I’m use to driving a manual. So if I press the gas, I want it to start accelerating.

Not wait a second for it to figure what gear it should be in based on the percentage of throttle, shift three gears, and then accelerate.

You have to compensate for what you think the computer is going to do and plan your attack ahead of time so it does what you need when you need it.

I’ve said it before, but I feel like using an automatic transmission is like trying to heard a bunch of feral cats through an open field. They’re not good for daily drivers, they are too much work.