outer "snap ring" for manual hubs

[fourhigh]

Good Saturday afternoon,
After owning my Bronco ll for nearly 10 years I am freshening up the front brakes,
including new rotors.' 85, manual lockers. Was all ready to tear into it, removed the
caliper, (of course) before realizing the outer "snap ring" either has broken ears, or none
by design, if that's the case, there sure is a heckuva gap...
In my Haynes manual and the diagram on this site the clip appears to
NOT have ears. However it is a drawing, so not sure. I've done the forum search
and can't really find anything pertaining to my generation, a Ford part number,42570
was mentioned for early-mid 90's. It's gonna suck getting it off for sure. Don't want to go
much further til I know I can get it removed and have another ready. Any help
is welcomed.

 

[dvdswan]

This page might help.

Dana 28 / Dana 35 Repair & Rebuild – The Ranger Station

 

[fourhigh]

Thank You, and for Your service.

 

[rumblecloud]

Not sure if this applies, but here is a pic of the outer spacer and snap ring for my 94 Ranger 4by: The snap ring is kinda lame looking.

 

[fourhigh]

Hey rumblecloud,
Thank You. It confirms what I have, like half
of a thick washer. Interestingly, the manual advised "snap ring
pliers", 'expanding the snap ring just enough to remove
it from the end of the spindle shaft'...' not sure how that can't be an edit mistake......
Now to get the removal figured out, and if I mangle it, I don't have a replacement,
guess I'll put it back together til I can get it figured out where I can source one.
Gotta get to work tomorrow...
Have Yourself a good rest of the weekend guys.

 

[adsm08]

There are special snap ring pliers for that. I generally use a straight pick and a small flat screw driver. The pick can be wedged in under it by going between a pair of splines, then used to lift it enough to get the screw driver under. Then lift the other end with the pick and work it off. Be careful as it is important and usually goes flying.

 

[Uncle Gump]

 

[fourhigh]

Excellent, thanks guys. Since I last checked in, my neighbor had a pair of these, only
problem is they don't open wide enough. adsm08, I briefly tried that method yesterday,
guessin' I might have to resort to that way again, thanks. Gump, I appreciate the time You
took to post the pic. Can't imagine Ford Motor Company, God bless 'em, really thought
they were savin' that much money by using a clip, sans ears, for their production !....b.t.w.,
thanks to all the stalwarts on this forum, who advise and assist in keepin' our
ol' rides on the road. Mine remains my daily. I haven't been on the site much as the last
couple years, wow !, went fast, I've been keepin' my other rides on the road, the 2 wheel
kind. Got my old Norton that my father and I purchased together back in 1977 partially restored
and reliable, an old Yamaha Enduro and my Harley shovelhead that I've owned 41 years
rideable as well. Have to see how long my 60 year old carcass can stay in the wind, but I'm
gonna go as long as I can! b.t.w., I have spotted another first generation Bronco ll in my neighborhood
that is buy-able, and I am contemplating doing a body swap. The cancer is either going to have
to be repaired before too much longer or a replacement body.. several less thousand rounds and rust
cancer on this one, plus it has door wings, and a rear wiper ! Next step is to stop and negotiate.
Last I visited with him it was the dreaded "what'll You give me ?"...Again thanks for the help
even though I haven't been real active. The interweb is good for some things still.
Thanks for Your eye time.

 

[dvdswan]

Can't imagine Ford Motor Company, God bless 'em, really thought
they were savin' that much money by using a clip, sans ears, for their production !

Saving .01 in production cost on 1,000,000 parts = $10,000. It does add up.

 

[fourhigh]

Suppose, just wish they would have chosen a different location to use this crap "clip" they saved that .01 on....

 

[adsm08]

Don't overthink it dude. It's Ford, the answer isn't complicated. You aren't supposed to work on it, and you are supposed to suffer if you try. That's all there is to it.

 

[don4331]

Suppose, just wish they would have chosen a different location to use this crap "clip" they saved that .01 on....

Don't give Ford too much credit/blame - they were buying the axle from Dana. So, while they might have worked together on the TTB design, but things like the outer hub design were very much Dana standard (or they might have even been subcontracted to Warn who was doing the locking hub. Once in production, every $0.01 saved was profit for Dana (or Warn).

Which is why you got the 28/35 hybrid - cheaper to have the common housing, with 28 gears than to have 2 housings.​

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Been there, designed that, cried over the split milk when my design was fed into circular folder after couple prototypes for the "common" and/or "supplier" design.​