Oil coolers, and Relocation kits

[JamesC]

Has anyone used those oil filter Relocation kits and added a cooler in line with it?

here is an example of the kit I am looking at
http://www.alamomotorsports.com/pmc/Cat_page27.html

So I am thinking of installing that with a transmission style oil cooler in front of the rad (only it would have 1/2 fittings instead of 3/8)

any one see any problems with this setup? Are these style kits prone too leaks from the hose clamps?

Also where would you put the cooler before or after the filter?

 

[daniel3507]

this might be a cheaper way
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/OilCooler.htm

 

[AllanD]

I'm all for engine oil coolers and filter relocation kits, but....

First there's something of a lack of other places to put the filter.

Next: NEVER and I MEAN NEVER install a cooler before the filter.
Why would you want to goop up a cooler with all the crap that
makes it past the pickup screen?
Not to mention the great potential of "sneezing" the cooler
apart if you rev a cold engine filled with thick oil...

Next, I wouldn't install a cooler inline with the filter in any case.
If you NEED to relocate the filter for accessability do so, but if
you want a cooler as well install a "Sandwich adapter" that
includes a thermostat, because the one thing you don't need
to be doing is "cooling" oil that is already cold.

Engines like all their fluids to be at a certain operating temperature.
For oil it's a bit warmer than your coolant should ever get, just over
100degC ideally around 110C (~210-230F)

You want the oil to be warm enough to drive off any moisture that
might find it's way into the crank case... either from condensation
from humid air that might be drawn into the crankcase as the engine
cools to water condensed from combustion products.

there's a damned good reason why coolant temperature guages usually
have a max scale of 250F, while engine oil temp guages have a max scale
of 300F

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[JamesC]

I have noticed that most Volkswagens have a sandwich oil cooler on them but they do not have a oil cooler thermostat. I would think the oil would heat up quick enough that you wouldn't run into an issue of over cooling the oil. In fact I don't think I have ever seen a car with a factory oil cooler have any sort of thermostatic control for the oiling system.

 

[AllanD]

Please don't confuse an aircooled Volkswagen to reality.

Porsche was famous for putting the oil cooler between the engine and
the filter and NOT using a bypass valve in the filter so you had to sit
and warm them up or risk grenading the oil cooler

So essentially volkwagen was the bad example I didn't want to mention by name.

You wanna rob a sandwich type filter adapter from a car that HAS a thermostat?

Find a Turbo Saab, 78-80.

You'll need to rethread the metric globeseal ports to accept
3/8" US pipe threads

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[OilPatch197]

Don't need a oil cooler if you run synthetic oil.

 

[JamesC]

definitely not talking about the air cooled Volkswagen, just a regular 2000ish and up golf or jetta. They use sandwich oil coolers with no thermostat on them.