Noobie motor mount questions...

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Quick disclaimer - none of the following pics are mine. They have all been borrowed from somewhere off the internet.

Ok, I've searched and read, and I still don't have a firm grasp on which mounts are the best for me.

The engine I'm wanting to swap in came from a '92 Thunderbird, and I want to put it in my '97 2wd 2.3 truck.


I *think* I want to use the Mustang mounts or the Advance Adapters mounts. Do these mounts bolt to the block, then directly into the frame with no extra required parts? Do any new holes need drilled in the frame for either mount? Will these mounts position the engine lower in the frame than other mounts?


Here they are...

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Then there is the plate that can be made at home. This plate will bolt to the engine block, then to the top of a stock 4.0 motor mount? But does it sit the engine higher in the frame?

I have no idea how these are used. Does anyone have a pic of them installed so I can see how they work?

And lastly, this is the oil pan on my engine. Is it the correct one for the swap?

 

[HOT_ROD_CAR]

Hello.
- The top two mounts bolt directly to the engine, then to the frame. You may need to
drill new holes in the frame.
- These plates work well also. The plates I used with these specs set the engine lower
in the frame.
- Not sure about item four.
- Yes, that oil pan is what you need.

Good luck with your build and post pics!

 

[wade]

You're good with the oil pan. And I'd suggest Mid-to-Late 80's Convertible Mustang 5.0L mounts. Switched side-for-side, left-to-right, right-to-left. Do some searching here and on RPS for "Vert Mounts". I'm using 4.0L Mounts w/ Adapter Plates that started with the template you have posted. But, they don't look much like that anymore. If I was gonna' do it over - I think I'd use the "Vert Mounts". Its just simpler and very cost effective.

 

[baddad457]

The top pic is the vert mount. You will have to drill holes or cut slots to get em in place. No matter whos mounts you use, there's welding, drilling and/or cutting involved.

 

[Psychopete]

The bottom look just like my AA plates. The top looks just like the mounts I used to attach the engine to the AA plates. AA makes actual motor mounts, but you can get mounts from a 1980 Bronco w/ 302 for a lot cheaper.

The AA plates are bolted to the cross member. I had to drill one extra hole, others were already there. Took like 10 minutes tops. I think the instructions stated that a later model wouldn't require the extra hole. I can't remember the range span they specified for this to fit. The two parallel slots are the top and bottom that go into the cross member. The single slot on the raised steel will need to be mounted towards the firewall and not the front of the truck (the engine will set too far up). The slot should be vertical (up and down) - you drop the engine into those slots with the mounts from the top picture installed on the engine.

With that being said, they are a pain in the butt to get everything aligned up and tightened. Just the passenger side access to the bottom of the mount is very limited. That will have you cursing in a hurry, take a look and you'll se what I am talking about.

Pete

 

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Thanks for all the info.

I'm going to try the mustang mounts. Why do they need to be for a convertible? I looked up part numbers for Mustangs from like '83 to '95, and they all take the same mount for a 302, convertible or not. No biggie... just wondering.

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[COPPERHEAD85]

Because they go to 11.........
Sorry couldn't help myself.

 

[baddad457]

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Thanks for all the info.

I'm going to try the mustang mounts. Why do they need to be for a convertible? I looked up part numbers for Mustangs from like '83 to '95, and they all take the same mount for a 302, convertible or not. No biggie... just wondering.

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The Vert mounts have the two steel parts interlocked, so if there's a failure, that limits the amount of travel of the engine into your hood, and the fan into the shroud.

 

[5.0]

Thanks. I'll be sure to get the ones with the extra metal.

 

[RangerSVT]

motor mounts from a 71 ford bolt right up both ways, to the ranger frame and the 302...
SVT

 

[Shran]

motor mounts from a 71 ford bolt right up both ways, to the ranger frame and the 302...
SVT

71 Ford what? F100? car?

 

[Teddyzee]

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Thanks for all the info.

I'm going to try the mustang mounts. Why do they need to be for a convertible? I looked up part numbers for Mustangs from like '83 to '95, and they all take the same mount for a 302, convertible or not. No biggie... just wondering.

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The Mustang mounts for a Fox convertible ('87-'93) are the same part number as the '94/'95 GT.
This is also the same part number found on the Lincoln Mark VII LSC, maybe others. This is where mine came from. On this application, the stud is offset toward the front of the vehicle. Possibly the fox coupe had the stud offset toward the rear, hence some people flipping them side to side.

Another difference from the Fox coupe versions is the construction. The size is the same.

www.napaonline.com is a great tool for cross-referencing part numbers.

 

[RangerSVT]

I got mine for a 71 F100
SVT

 

[Psychopete]

I got mine for a 71 F100
SVT

How far did your engine set forward? I used the same motor mounts (for a 302) w/ AA plates, which offset the mounts back a bit.

Pete

 

[Shran]

I got mine for a 71 F100
SVT

Cool, good info. Thanks.