nerds......

[bobbywalter]

what do you nerds....you super code programmers .... crowdstrike deal...

 

[bobbywalter]

lets hear it

 

[broncc]

Somehow I managed to get paid to write code before for so my opinion is only slightly more useful than worthless... but I saw rumblings on social media that someone pushed an empty settings file out and that's what broke everything.

 

[JoshT]

I think you are missing some words there.

I'm not a programmer, but I have tinkered with computers all my life, do have an Associates in IT, and was working on a BS in it. I've only glanced at any of what was going on with all this, so I only have a very vague picture of what exactly happened.

About like the SS July 13th, somebody f***ed up. A company pushed out a software update that wasn't properly tested. Updates installed world wide. SHTF.

I think this demonstrates how bad it is for much of the software running our major infrastructure to depend on just a few entities. Everything that broke had the software management and/or updates tied back to one company. The IT management for each major user should be doing its own testing of updates and patches before pushing out to the entire company. Obviously either too many users are outsourcing IT management to the same third party, or the in house management is not doing it's job properly.

 

[Curious Hound]

I spoke with one of the guys running around our plant fixing it today. This really wasn't a huge deal for us. The fix was easy. The problem only manifested itself if someone restarted a computer. Then they would get a blue screen of irritation. That slightly complicated recovery but not by much.

 

[JoshT]

This really wasn't a huge deal for us. The fix was easy.

That's what I gathered from my reading. Not a major issue to fix the cause, but it propogated so fast and wide that it was difficult to get ahead of and stop. The real chaos was from having to take so much stuff offline to fix. Rebooting systems and servers on that scale takes time and coordination.

 

[bobbywalter]

especially on election day. hate to be on life support in a hospital .


yeah nice.

 

[bobbywalter]

who owns crowd strike.

 

[Uncle Gump]

I heard that this cost us about a billion dollars.

Funny you mention election day... i was thinking the same thing. This country would erupt.

I don't know who owns it...

 

[bobbywalter]

look at what they did in arizona. i mean i am sure it was mere coincidence.





as to this stuff the last few years with the food factories and utility systems... 6th generation warfare.... we need more nerds. we need way way way more nerds.

 

[Uncle Gump]

We need competency...

 

[pentode]

who owns crowd strike.

It’s publicly traded. Supposedly worth 80-some-odd billion. Before yesterday anyway.

I heard that this cost us about a billion dollars.

Funny you mention election day... i was thinking the same thing. This country would erupt.

I don't know who owns it...

I’d be shocked if it were only a billion.

look at what they did in arizona. i mean i am sure it was mere coincidence.

as to this stuff the last few years with the food factories and utility systems... 6th generation warfare.... we need more nerds. we need way way way more nerds.

I don’t market myself as a security expert but I’ve worked as a network and systems engineer in the past so I have a few opinions. IMHO if you’re worried about security the single best move you can make is to get off windows and on to some other operating system. I stopped using Windows 25 years ago. I still can’t believe how many critical industries and corporations run their whole operations on Windows.

And nothing absolutely mission-critical or survival related should be connected to the internet. So yeah, air-gapped voting machines running BSD or Linux are what we need.

We’re lucky it was just a screw-up. If ever we see a similar outage caused by a hack, everything won’t be back up the next day. It’ll be a month… or a year. Good wake up call.

 

[pentode]

We need competency...

I better slow down before I start raving but what we really need is to ask ourselves if we need our refrigerators connected to the internet…

EDIT: ok too late I’m gonna rave I guess. I read about people’ dialysis machines crashing in the middle of treatment. Why in the holy &@&$* is a dialysis machine dependent on a windows network to function? Or cancer treatments? That’s nuts!

 

[bobbywalter]

I better slow down before I start raving but what we really need is to ask ourselves if we need our refrigerators connected to the internet…

EDIT: ok too late I’m gonna rave I guess. I read about people’ dialysis machines crashing in the middle of treatment. Why in the holy &@&$* is a dialysis machine dependent on a windows network to function? Or cancer treatments? That’s nuts!

well then... i do not think it was a screw up. i think it was a test.

and i am rapidly becoming a fan of linux.

 

[RobbieD]

but what we really need is to ask ourselves if we need our refrigerators connected to the internet…

The only modern, high-tech gee-wizz-bang implement I would even consider, would be a Smart Hammer.

I'm tired of hitting my hand instead of the nail.

Otherwise, I can live without the rest of it.