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From my understanding, from school 40 years ago, is that almost all plants use some form of pollination. It might be airborne but most likely is done by insects- mainly bees.
And if it came down to just one or two food crops feeding the world, just imagine the problems if one crop was decimated by some virus....
We should not carry all our eggs in one basket!
 
So i should stop pollinating my plants myself? :dunno:
 
Well, let’s see. To pollinate stuff, all we have to do is move pollen from one plant to another and deposit it there. Right? That sounds pretty easy. How much does the job pay? Heck. Bees do it almost by accident. The stuff just sticks to them when they land on the flower. Then they go to another flower and some falls off and some new stuff sticks to the bee. There has to be other ways to do this.
 
Honey bees are the most cost efficient way, you can even make money from the honey....
Some greenhouses do it by hand, but you have to pay for labor.
@PetroleumJunkie412 might have some insight in this. He raises exotic plants in a greenhouse.
 
Well, let’s see. To pollinate stuff, all we have to do is move pollen from one plant to another and deposit it there. Right? That sounds pretty easy. How much does the job pay? Heck. Bees do it almost by accident. The stuff just sticks to them when they land on the flower. Then they go to another flower and some falls off and some new stuff sticks to the bee. There has to be other ways to do this.

Wow.... i was way off!

Last time I pollinated my plants myself I ended up with this...

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So i should stop pollinating my plants myself? :dunno:
I now have this disturbing vision in my head of you jumping and hopping around your basement "pollinating" all the little "things" down there.
LOL, nightmares for me tonight.
 
I actually cleaned my basement last weekend because I'll have a project to work on. Taking half of the engine off the ranger and gonna clean and rebuild everything. Made a nice clean workbench free of poo. Im too lazy to do it in the garage, no heat and full of chickens.
 
Hey now! Keystone lite may taste like rainwater in an old boot but it got me through college dammit!

But Lucky's has the bottle cap puzzles, and is also "an easy drinking beer"
 
I don't think im old enough for luckys... PBR was beer of choice for day to day life but didnt come in kegs, keystone was the cheapest kegs (i think like 35 bucks). So partys always had keystone.
 
Back in the late 60's when I was in Jr. College all we could afford was stuff sold by a local grocery store under their brand name, Winn Dixie Premium.
I think back then it was like $1.59 a six pack. Tasted like piss/puke, but it was beer and we all looked "kool" walking around with "beer".
 
Well, let’s see. To pollinate stuff, all we have to do is move pollen from one plant to another. Bees do it almost by accident. The stuff just sticks to them when they land on the flower. Then they go to another flower and some falls off and some new stuff sticks to the bee. There has to be other ways to do this.
Bees do it effortlessly and free. You want to find another way, go ahead. It wont be easy and you want to get paid. I'd rather keep the bees alive.
God or evolution ( take your pick ) has had millions of years to figure it out. I dont think a human can fix this anytime soon, except by eradication of the new invasive species.
 
Ok but what im saying is bees dont pollenate beans, corn, etc, which are the main food crops fed to both people AND food animals.

Am i missing something?
Are you missing the fact that if bees just disappeared only 20% of the plants in the WORLD would be pollinated. Some countries dont even have corn but they have honey bees. If plants don't reproduce a lot of bugs and critters would have nowhere to do their thing and would die off. Starting there you can just work your way up the food chain. No fruit then no bugs then no rats then no snakes then no owls or no deer or no humans because we would starve because no honey bees.
 
Honey bees are the most cost efficient way, you can even make money from the honey....
Some greenhouses do it by hand, but you have to pay for labor.
@PetroleumJunkie412 might have some insight in this. He raises exotic plants in a greenhouse.
I am pretty sure that @PetroleumJunkie412 's plants would eat those bees as they were pollinating.

AJ
 
I am pretty sure that @PetroleumJunkie412 's plants would eat those bees as they were pollinating.

AJ
Nope! Most big carnivores live in areas where flies pollinate, so they kill and reproduce via the same relationship with flies. This is the 20% that @Ranger850 is talking about.

Its why plants like the stinking corpse lillies, corpse flowers, etc exist - they attract their pollinators and food with the same stench - death. Since there are so many flies that mob the flowers when they bloom, nature plays the odds, and uses the swarm of flies that shows up to move pollen. Not all flies are stupid enough to be eaten, so they just roll around in pollen looking for something dead to eat, find nothing but pollen, then leave for the next death-smelling flower. No food there either, and so on and so on. Just by them searching for food, they move enough pollen to keep the species going.

This is why I semi-dread when my nepenthes bloom - one flower makes the house smell like a WW1 trench in July.




You do not have pollination without bait. Plants in the western hemisphere evolved to be food sources to move their pollen around. This was not an action taken by one of the gods, nor was it an accident. Flowers here smell good for a reason. Flowers in Indonesia stink for a reason. They are certain colors for a reason. Everything in a plant is evolved to make it reproduce. Their flowers are designed via natural selection to reproduce the most effectively.


Carnivores that live with bees flower before the bees are out. My American, african, and south american carnivores are in full bloom right now. Cold, dark, and rainy weather triggers flowering. However, no traps have grown yet.

Yes, they evolved this way so that they do not kill their pollinators, and the selection pressure was great enough that ALL carnivores that evolved alongside bees are this way.








This is why the giant hornet thing has the potential to actually kill us all.

Our bees cannot withstand them.

Our agrarian plants rely on bees to pollinate. This is not an accident, it is symbiosis. They have evolved to be this way. This is how plants work.

Yes, you can do it by hand with many, however, not all. Most plants that rely on pollination via flies are sexed - there are male and female plants.

Others have decidedly different tactics to make sure that they are pollinated - stamens will produce pollen before anthers are open, and by time the anthers are open, the pollen that the plant produced first dies. This ensures they cannot self pollinate and that they actually breed with genetically different plants.

Without forage crops, we do not have livestock.

Asian giant hornets have no natural predators.

They have no 'good' natural diseases that can be exploited.

This is do or (maybe actually) die time. They have to be wiped out.
 
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