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Muffler delete...


jedHuf

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What's the common opinion?? Any power gains? Kill gas mileage? Sound good??

I had to fix he doughnut gasket in my exhaust and when I had it apart I fered it up. Sounded good. Thinking about deleting the muffler but if it's anot a good idea I wait to buy a cat back.
 
Won't hurt anything but your ear drums.
 
Since the late '70's and earlier '80s car makers started using tuned exhaust, and cold air intakes(CAI)

Tuned exhaust means at, and near, a specific RPM the exhaust flow's velocity creates a negative pressure at the exhaust ports in the head.
This negative pressure means the crank loses less energy pushing out the exhaust, it is pulled out, so more energy is available for the vehicle.
The negative pressure is created by using the correct diameter and length of pipes in exhaust manifold(header) to create the velocity and then dumping that velocity into a larger pipe(collector), this sudden drop in pressure, from smaller pipe to larger, creates the lower pressure at the other exhaust ports on that bank.
The lowest pressure can be "tuned" in the RPM range, most stock manifolds are tuned for mid-range having lowest pressure so the most engine power.
3rd party headers are usually tuned for lower end power, but "racing headers" are available which create the lowest pressure at higher RPMs.
Assuming you have a tuned exhaust then changing exhaust won't give more power, you can move where the power(lowest exhaust pressure) occurs in the RPM range, but power is the same.

This is also where the myth of "back pressure" came from, i.e. "some engines need back pressure"
How this got started is that people would remove the stock "tuned" exhaust, and put on "free flowing" headers, large diameter pipes.
Then after a test drive...."hey, WTF, I lost power, this engine must need back pressure!"
Result was correct but conclusion was wrong, the larger pipes didn't allow a high velocity in header pipes so they lost the low pressure and the power it added.
No 4-stroke engine runs better with back pressure, quite the opposite, 2-stoke engines do need back pressure :)

As long as you don't use a smaller pipe size for Cat or muffler it won't effect power, and eliminating "working" Cat or muffler won't effect power one way or the other.
 
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Well I'm fairly certain that I've incresed the peak power on many cars by altering the exhaust. I've seen it on a dyno. Power gains threw out the entire RPM range. I hate the "back pressure" crap people bring up. It's BS. So I agree with you there.

Just curiouse what people's opinions and experiences are.
 
I find it hard to believe a Ranger would have all that great of a "tuned" muffler on it. I mean, I'm sure it's decent but they also have to make it pass federal exhaust noise regs, so it won't flow as well as many aftermarket mufflers (not all, of course).

Most of the time when people complain about losing back pressure it's because they freed up the exhaust TOO much and lost velocity. Less velocity = less effective scavenging.

PERSONALLY...I've never liked the sound of a straight piped V6, but to each his own!
 
I havnt messed with it yet. I Was awaiting more input but I'm finding this to be the most inactive forum I've ever come across.
 
Eh, unfortunately that happens...I've had a few questions I asked here where I had to go find the answers elsewhere because I never got a single reply.
 
I'd check the legalities in your area... IIRC some places have noise laws that prohibit the deletion of mufflers. One more reason for a cop to pull you over...
 

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