Leave the damn gas prices alone..........

[shadetree]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090101/ap_on_go_ot/gas_tax

shady

 

[dgndngrngr]

yep. thats just dumb

"President-elect Barack Obama has expressed concern about raising gas taxes in the current economic climate. But commission members said the government must find the money somewhere."

Didn't he say he wasnt gonna raise taxes? lets see how long that lasts Im glad everyone jumped on the obama wagon, lets see how quickly they jump off. This stuff happens when people go out and vote when they dont even know whos running for office, just because a friend told them to vote for someone. Apparently people think EVERYTHING needs to be changed because thats whats gonna happen. thats my rant. now im done lol

 

[Will]

Thread=dead.

 

[Jim Oaks]

In Ohio, a portion of the gas tax goes to the Ohio Department of Transportation (ODOT). The tax had always paid for the states ODOT and Highway Patrol.

A few years ago ODOT convinced the state to drop the Highway Patrol from the tax and give the money to them. They said they would be able to get more road work done with it.

The state dumped the Highway Patrol and gave the patrols portion to ODOT. ODOT gave itself a raise. The roads still suck. I guess now the just use the money for an extra guy to stand around with a shovel in his hand.

The state raised the cost of licenses and plates to make up for the funding of the Highway Patrol. Now when you pay more for plates and a drivers license than you did a few years ago, thank ODOT.

If they raise taxes to pay for roads, you can bet those guys mowing the grass along the berm will probably get a raise before the roads start getting fixed.

 

[mjonesjr]

Crap like this really pisses me off. When are American people going to stand up and say enough is enough?

 

[skippy]

Crap like this really pisses me off. When are American people going to stand up and say enough is enough?

Sign up here for a new movement to let washington know enough is enough,spend taxpayers money responsibly.

http://www.hermancain.com/hitm.asp

 

[Skid Vicious]

ya know what really irritates me? the fact politicians ALWAYS look to raise taxes for this or that. When was the last time you heard one of these crooks say, we can trim the fat from the budget, we don't need to build a bridge to nowhere, we don't need a state poet, we won't reward single mothers on welfare with more assisstance when they have 2,3, and 4 more babies. no more section 8 either. If you can't afford the rent, you have no right to live in a certain house. Does anyone here even know what our governments primary purpose is? It's to protect our freedom. Not have us dependent on social programs overseen by the state. Fuckin-A. Sometimes i think the ignorance of our populace was engineered by those in power to keep us stupid and apathetic.

For the first quarter of 2008, the average state gasoline tax is 28.6 cents per US gallon, plus 18.4 cents per US gallon federal tax making the total 47 cents per US gallon. Multiply that by the average number of gallons of gas used in the US yearly and you'll soon find out who the real crooks are. Adding insult to injury, our gov't wants to put a "windfall profits" tax on big oil. Windfall profits? Exxon/mobil goes out and finds the oil, sets up an oil rig to drill in the ground, sometimes 1000's of ft deep, refine it, then deliver it to us at a cost of $1.50 per gallon. All the gov't does is sit back and collect its revenue. Now, tell me who really had windfall profits?

Exxon did not pay anything in taxes because there is no such person. Their shareholders and customers paid the tax. And, these are the same people who would pay a “windfall” profits tax. Our government officials are slick by popularly proposing the taxing of the demonic Exxon and his “friends.”

The politicians are actually contemplating pilfering your money by putting their hands into your pocket to get that tax money. They then think they can give you back $1000 and call it OK. They want two things: 1) Your money, and 2) our vote. Don’t give them either one.

 

[skippy]

ya know what really irritates me? the fact politicians ALWAYS look to raise taxes for this or that. When was the last time you heard one of these crooks say, we can trim the fat from the budget, we don't need to build a bridge to nowhere, we don't need a state poet, we won't reward single mothers on welfare with more assisstance when they have 2,3, and 4 more babies. no more section 8 either. If you can't afford the rent, you have no right to live in a certain house. Does anyone here even know what our governments primary purpose is? It's to protect our freedom. Not have us dependent on social programs overseen by the state. Fuckin-A. Sometimes i think the ignorance of our populace was engineered by those in power to keep us stupid and apathetic.

For the first quarter of 2008, the average state gasoline tax is 28.6 cents per US gallon, plus 18.4 cents per US gallon federal tax making the total 47 cents per US gallon. Multiply that by the average number of gallons of gas used in the US yearly and you'll soon find out who the real crooks are. Adding insult to injury, our gov't wants to put a "windfall profits" tax on big oil. Windfall profits? Exxon/mobil goes out and finds the oil, sets up an oil rig to drill in the ground, sometimes 1000's of ft deep, refine it, then deliver it to us at a cost of $1.50 per gallon. All the gov't does is sit back and collect its revenue. Now, tell me who really had windfall profits?

Exxon did not pay anything in taxes because there is no such person. Their shareholders and customers paid the tax. And, these are the same people who would pay a “windfall” profits tax. Our government officials are slick by popularly proposing the taxing of the demonic Exxon and his “friends.”

The politicians are actually contemplating pilfering your money by putting their hands into your pocket to get that tax money. They then think they can give you back $1000 and call it OK. They want two things: 1) Your money, and 2) our vote. Don’t give them either one.

I'll just be damned,somebody who gets it.well put sir!

 

[therieldeal]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravina_Island_Bridge

LOL nice link, apparantly palin thought that bridge was a fantastic idea... wtf

 

[Mechanickid]

I thought this thread was locked?

 

[therieldeal]

why would it be locked?

the last part of the OP's article really irked me

"The financing commission thinks the long-term solution is a mileage-based revenue system. While details have not been worked out, such a system would mean equipping every car and truck with a device that uses global positioning satellites and transponders to record how many miles the vehicle has been driven, the type of roads and time of day. Creation and installation of such a system would take about 10 years.

Moore said commission members were initially concerned that using technology to track driving might violate drivers' privacy, but they've been assured that such a system could be designed to prevent vehicles from being "tracked in some big brotherish way." "

 

[CJREX]

Moore said commission members were initially concerned that using technology to track driving might violate drivers' privacy, but they've been assured that such a system could be designed to prevent vehicles from being "tracked in some big brotherish way." "

Just like your SSN was never supposed to be used as a means to identify you?

 

[Mechanickid]

last I checked will locked this thread lol

 

[mjonesjr]

last I checked will locked this thread lol

Jim unlocked it.

 

[Shran]

I'd disagree with the section 8 comment...you can only live in certain places (that are pretty damn nice, btw) and there really is quite a bit of cost on the tenant's part too. I agree that you shouldn't live somewhere if you can't afford it, but when a studio apartment is $600 a month and a 3 bedroom house is $1400 after utilities it really makes you think about who is really getting rich and who is getting screwed because there is no other alternative.

Regarding gas. I wouldn't vote for a tax increase, especially in this time when people are struggling to put food on the table. I kind of doubt it will pass anyway because of that. It seems like every time some whack Congressman comes up with a half assed idea about gas taxes it gets shoved under the rug and forgotten about. Which is good because I think there are a lot better ways to improve our transportation infrastructure than this.