just dropped in to say good by trs

[bobbywalter]

 

[gribly]

Well, from what I found it was 200+ ft lbs from 2000rpm on up, and it picked up quick around 2000rpm with very little before that, with good power up top. Looked like a damn car engine.

 

[shane96ranger]

This trumps all.....

 

[Blake.]

You can defend your autos all you want but all things being equal, manuals will always be more reliable and not fail as catastrophically Stock NV3500 tranny here with 195,000+ miles sitting behind a turbocharged small block on a stock clutch for the last 16,000+ miles, any questions

The 3.9 Magnum is making 200ft/lbs@1600 RPMS and peaks at 225ft/lbs at 3200 RPM, it's making 200+Ft/lbs from 1600RPMS to 4500RPMS. Yeah the 4.0 has a little more grunt down low, but to call the 3.9 anemic And trust me, I'm a 4.0 fan, there's a reason there's one in my B2.

OP, Dakotas are good trucks, don't let the brand loyalty here discourage you

Hahns, with the blueish gen II dak 5.2 5-speed remote turbo?

and like i said before, I love my dakota. I'll probably have the dang thing till i die.

 

[koda6966]

This trumps all.....

BAH.































Win.

 

[Mark_88]

i havent driven my ranger in almost 3 years...3 YEARS!!! and ive been here the whole time. stick around!

yeah, I drove a Zuki Psychic for 6 years while I rebuilt my Ranger...and manged to post over 10,000 posts in that time...

I think Dodges are great trucks...I had a Ram Charger until someone T-boned me...but that was hard on gas...and I even traded a 72 Capri in great shape for it as down payment...that was dumb...but I got over myself by humping girls in the back of my Dodge (the song Taxi comes to mind here)...

Hmmm...

speaking of humping...camel toes...yum~

This trumps all.....

Is that Oprah? you win!

 

[koda6966]

Is that Oprah? you win!

Nope. That's the US presidents wife. lol

 

[Hahnsb2]

Not defending them, just throwing a realistic rain on your parade.

They are not bulletproof either. And if whatever your NV3500 is in still had the factory original clutch I would be really impressed, because that is what you are expecting the automatic to have. And usually the clutches in an automatic outlive their geardrive counterparts because they have a system to cool them.

As far as catastophic, cogboxes can be pretty interesting if they want be. I have seen all sorts of goofy crap come in the shop... although what we get in is a lot more complicated than a measily 4-6 speed car/pickup transmission.

Not the original clutch, but a stock spec clutch, not an upgraded one, clutch has around 43k on it. You average clutch in a manual isn't slipped much and doesn't get very warm, and the gears don't slip, so there's no need for a cooling system. Put 6-7PSI into just about any motor with a stock auto and it's going to puke.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Not the original clutch, but a stock spec clutch, not an upgraded one, clutch has around 43k on it. You average clutch in a manual isn't slipped much and doesn't get very warm, and the gears don't slip, so there's no need for a cooling system. Put 6-7PSI into just about any motor with a stock auto and it's going to puke.

I wouldn't run much more on either trans. People run that much on Mustangs fairly commonly.

Clutch life increased dramatically when John Deere went to a wet clutch. Went from routine maintenance to "do it while you have the engine out" or "do it while the trans is apart" Same deal with to a certain extent with brakes, they last much longer and perform much better than dry brakes.

The torque converter gear drive setups in Cases are really cool, just change the oil and filters once in a while and go. My grandfather farmed with one from the mid 60's to the early 90's full time and fed hay up until '02 with his... never touched the trans. Dad helped for 10 years and used his for a shop loader tractor for about 15 years... never touched his either. And what they can do with just a torque converter in front of an 8 speed is incredible compared to a clutch tractor.

 

[gribly]

I wouldn't run much more on either trans. People run that much on Mustangs fairly commonly.

And what they can do with just a torque converter in front of an 8 speed is incredible compared to a clutch tractor.

With my driving style and the way I shift, I totally agree with Hahns on this one. Automatics create way more slippage and heat than a manual.

As far as tractors go, that's a lot different, but I do prefer a manual for the control. I heard from a trucker once (again, another different category) that it takes twice the horsepower for a manual truck to keep up with an automatic truck off the line.

 

[shane96ranger]

If I could add my own 2 cents, and you can take it for what it's worth. But as some of you may know, one of my my friend owns a transmission shop. I do some work for him with advertising and even answered phones before. He gets way more calls and repairs on automatics than manuals, or clutches for that matter. While I realize there are more auto's on the road, the automatics always crap out sooner. It's a fact from what I've seen. One thing that he says is killing a lot of the newer cars and trucks is the lack of a decent trans cooler.

I'm very familiar with his business and this is my observation.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

One thing that he says is killing a lot of the newer cars and trucks is the lack of a decent trans cooler.

If you do what the vehicle is intended to do and maintain it, you should be fine. I do think one of the big problems is they have be so mushy from the factory when they shift so you can't feel it.

Automatics outnumber manuals on the road so bad now it is hard to draw much of a comparision by a seat of the pants number comparision.

My 178,000 mile '94 Explorer parts runner has never had the A4LD touched... still shifts fine, thanks to the 3.27 gears it gets a workout on hills too. Was the family conestoga from '96-05 so I have been around it a little while.

 

[shane96ranger]

If you do what the vehicle is intended to do and maintain it, you should be fine.

I agree. Most people don't ever touch the ATF until it starts slipping. Then it must "need to be flushed" and all hell breaks loose.

 

[rboyer]

I think I could see myself driving an automatic Dodge truck. I would definitely keep my Ranger though for when I eventually broke down.

 

[Ranger Dave (B25)]

Completely uncalled for. Some might still be half-asleep and now have been frightened by this horrible visage. Some might have just eaten breakfast, and now are feeling ill after having this thrust at them. Some people are going to have trouble sleeping tonight as a result of seeing this grotesque image.

For shame...Shane.