Intresting trivia... for some...

[AllanD]

At 0000UTC January 3, 2010 (8pm EST 02JAN10) the earth reached it's annual perhelion.

The point in it's orbit where it is closest to the sun.

From now until 1100UTC July 7th we will be getting further
from the sun (Aphelion).

Next closest approach? 03JAN11 @ 1900UTC (3pm EST)

AD

 

[schroader]

I would guess dec 23 2010 futherest from the sun. Again just a guess

 

[snoopdoggie]

I would guess dec 23 2010 futherest from the sun. Again just a guess

You went too long. Just six months I'd say. Half the time between perhelions. July 7th Allan says.

 

[Ozwynn]

I would guess dec 23 2010 futherest from the sun. Again just a guess

proximity to the sun has nothing to do with wether or not it is winter in the northern hemisphere.

right now the Northern Hemisphere is tilted away from the sun so it is winter here even though the earth is closer to the sun than it is in June.

 

[LittleHorse]

I wonder if winters would be any colder and summers would be any hotter if we were closest to the sun during the summer instead of the winter.


I guess we could just ask the southern hemisphere.

 

[AllanD]

well, since the earth's seasons are controlled by the 23.44degree axial tilt
and the tilt precesses over a 47,000 year period, you could simply wait
around for 47,000 years to find out...

But I'll also point out that ice ages come on a pretty
reliable 47,000-50,000 year period

Please also note that the warmest days of our year occour 1/6 of a
year AFTER we get maximum sunshine just as the coldest and worst of winter weather "lags" by the same ammount.

Frankly I'd expect if you lived long enough you'd see that since we are just
past the Winter Solstice when perhelion occours that we are past the bottom
point, so global temperatures could reasonably be expected to plunge in the
next few centuries

Consider that the solstice cycle gives us a year of 365 days, but axial
tilt precession gives us another period of rotation of 470 centuries.
and consider the effects you'd see from that...

can you say "Global warming my ass"?

IT's gonna get cold, damned cold. mabey not in our lifetimes,
but the panic mongering Al Gore will also be dead and his
decendants will be spending the near billion dollars he's
accumulated from being the guy saying that the sky is falling

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[pjtoledo]

well, since the earth's seasons are controlled by the 23.44degree axial tilt
and the tilt precesses over a 47,000 year period, you could simply wait
around for 47,000 years to find out...

But I'll also point out that ice ages come on a pretty
reliable 47,000-50,000 year period

Please also note that the warmest days of our year occour 1/6 of a
year AFTER we get maximum sunshine just as the coldest and worst of winter weather "lags" by the same ammount.

Frankly I'd expect if you lived long enough you'd see that since we are just
past the Winter Solstice when perhelion occours that we are past the bottom
point, so global temperatures could reasonably be expected to plunge in the
next few centuries

Consider that the solstice cycle gives us a year of 365 days, but axial
tilt precession gives us another period of rotation of 470 centuries.
and consider the effects you'd see from that...

can you say "Global warming my ass"?

IT's gonna get cold, damned cold. mabey not in our lifetimes,
but the panic mongering Al Gore will also be dead and his
decendants will be spending the near billion dollars he's
accumulated from being the guy saying that the sky is falling

AD

So that's why my son bought me a helmet for Xmas. I thought it was because I kept bashing my head on things in the garage.

For the record, northern Ohio, where I'm sitting right now was covered with a glacier of ice many many hundreds of feet thick just a few thousand years ago. Today it's covered with a meer half inch of snow. I'm kinda glad the Earth is a bit warmer now. And I was still freezin my arse off under the wiffies truck this afternoon.



Perry

 

[AllanD]

This whole mess over "global warming" isn't about global warming
as much as it is the idea that man's activities have even a 0.01%
effect on climate. (our effect is more like 0.003%).

But that it has been MUCH warmer in historical times
(1100 and 2200years ago or ~900AD and 220BC if
you want specifics)

But the neat thing that the panic mongering "Climatologists"
(Note that I used quotes) gloss over is the fact that each
glacial period scrapes away and essentially erases the record of
the previous warm period and previous glacial periods.

IF you really wanna get weirded out start looking at the sunspot cycle of the sun



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[adsm08]

can you say "Global warming my ass"?
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AllanD, you are my kind of people. I'm voting for you in 2012.

 

[skippy]

I do so miss the days when Alan and Makg used to go head to head over global warming.

 

[AllanD]

Ohhh... the Anti-warming movment is only building steam...

when "Inconvenient facts" come out the Global warming true
believer bluster, Bloviate and plain seek shelter...

Like the true believer's claim that it takes a certain ammount of CO2 to create ONE degree of global warming, Oh, yeah, man can reduce it's CO2 production....

The only rub is that we have to produce NO CO2, no fuel burned, no flatulence, exterminate our livestock AND hold our breath... for 30 years.... to gain that effect...

Why is the solution about "correcting" global warming all about taxing everyone?

IT's all about MONEY.

Not "warming"

Not about CORRECTING "Warming".

Money.

Follow the money and you'll understand.

AD

 

[88gt]

IT's all about MONEY.


AD

i never paid too much attention to the global warming topics here on trs but i do believe that you have hit the nail right on the head man. i am with the other guy...AllanD 2012!!!!

 

[AllanD]

OF CO2 released into the atmosphere in a given year man is
responsible for just over 0.017% of it

Even assuming we produced twice as much as we do it's TRIVIAL.

Now consider that CO2 in earth's atmosphere is 0.0387% (387ppm) of the total

So if we must divide that by what's man made... 0.000006718%

That's 6.718ppm

Ok, so what exactly are we supposed to reduce it to?

So, is Global Warming "Man Made"? Gimme a ****in break....

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[97RangerXLT]

Careful Allan, you are blaspheming the mighty Al Gore. he invented the internet you know

I am with you on this. There are quite a few people and companies that stand to make a mint off of the global warming scare. "Follow the money" is right.

The numbers you quote are interesting, can you cite the source on those? I would love to drop that on a few people...

AJ

 

[adsm08]

Careful Allan, you are blaspheming the mighty Al Gore. he invented the internet you know

I am with you on this. There are quite a few people and companies that stand to make a mint off of the global warming scare. "Follow the money" is right.

The numbers you quote are interesting, can you cite the source on those? I would love to drop that on a few people...

AJ

Al Gore is about as responsible for the development of any part of the internet proper as I am. The earlier versions of it being solely for access by DOD personnel to backup data in the event of a nuclear strike back in '79 (pretty sure that's right, anyone who knows for sure I'm wrong feel free to correct me). I was born in '86.

I HAVE DONE MORE TO DEVELOP AND ADVANCE THE INTERNET THAN AL GORE EVER DID!!!