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[Iron Ranger]

You could say that when I was young I didnt see the point of doing chores and what not, but over the years of diepilne and looking back I thanked my parent one day for teaching me the right stuff.

I have a little brother and I'm like the parent to him, I tell him that if he goes to a friends he needs to be back at a set time, change the trash he does it, etc....... teaching him now so later hes not a snob to me. I told him if he nice to me I'm nice back, all I demand is respect. I'm 21 hes 11, I'd do almost anything for him.

As for the not on time thing, I had an ex-gf that I have known for 7 years now that was like that. Her parents didnt get get on her ass enough as a child and well after she had 2 kids with 2 different guys from staying out late and not getting home on time, parting late, etc....well last week I saw her and after talking to her (she married a guy and shes says there isnt much love, guy that got her pregnant with kid number 2) she said that she should have listened to me all those years ago and stayed with me, I tried to warn her. It took all that for her to learn, thank god I'm not with her and I just got a new girlfriend 1 week ago and from what I see, she is the complete opossite of my ex-gf, well mannored, has a job, car,(a million times hotter) and told me that daddy doesnt know about me yet.... YIKES, I'm told he is strict but loving to her.

If you hear a shotgun click, you better have her explain to "daddy" who you are............................

 

[dangerranger83]

Shes 18, and just broke up with a what she called "dick headed boy friend" basiclly used her as a look what I got. I know this sounds weird but I met her on the internet, I live in Lafayette, In she lives in Chicago, IL only 2 hours away. I hope she explains to her dad first who I am and not me having to do it. Lets hope I dont loose her, shes number 4, the others left me because I'm not their type or I have different ways of thinking.

I have a Ranger, its all cool.

 

[fili450r]

If you hear a shotgun click, you better have her explain to "daddy" who you are............................

from personal experience......running in a straight line isNT that effective, and get to the corn field across the street REALLY fast!

and next time you sneak over, remember that golf clubs shine in the street light.... i have since then lost interest in golfing at 11 at night....haha.

 

[Kona]

I am chronically late....................it pisses the crap out of my in-laws!!!!

 

[Jim Oaks]

I just got called an asshole by the parent of one of my daughter's friends because I chewed her out (my daughter) and grounded her for being 5 min late.

Well ..... I am an Asshole but that is besides the point .... My daughter was 5 min late getting home ...... she is chronically late ...... if she was my employee I would fire her for her chronic tardiness...... What pissed me off is this woman is a flake ....... she is one of those that thinks kids have too many rules already so why get upset over 5 min......... its not the 5 min I am mad about ..... it is the chronic lateness .......... I can't not let her go play with this friend because neither one of them have alot of friends to play with........ but it she is supposed to be home at 5 because we eat at 5:30 and she needs to feed the cats at 5......

We have a society with screwed up parents.

I punish my daughter and stick to it, although it's very rare anymore that I have to. My ex-wife punishes her and never sticks to it. My daughter walks all over her. They argue all the time. My ex is like your daughters friends bitchy mom. Wants to be their friend, can't seem to grasp or do the job of a real parent. It's going to bite her (my ex and your daughters friends mom) in the ass.

If you punished her for every little thing without warning, then I'd say maybe the woman was right. I tell my kids up front what the rule is and what the punish will be. If they choose to break it then shame on them.

If you set a reasonable set of rules and follow through with punishment if your kids break them, than good for you. We need more parents like you.

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

We have a society with screwed up parents.

I punish my daughter and stick to it, although it's very rare anymore that I have to. My ex-wife punishes her and never sticks to it. My daughter walks all over her. They argue all the time. My ex is like your daughters friends bitchy mom. Wants to be their friend, can't seem to grasp or do the job of a real parent. It's going to bite her (my ex and your daughters friends mom) in the ass.

If you punished her for every little thing without warning, then I'd say maybe the woman was right. I tell my kids up front what the rule is and what the punish will be. If they choose to break it then shame on them.

If you set a reasonable set of rules and follow through with punishment if your kids break them, than good for you. We need more parents like you.

+1, it's the sad truth of the matter and I fear it's not getting better.

 

[Capt Jay]

Right there with you man.My dad used the belt and holy shit.I learned my lesson about things real quick.Hell even my mom was strict,she'd pull out a big ole wooden spoon and paddle my ass til it was red and about to bleed if I did something wrong.I hated em at the time but I gotta respect em now.It absolutely taught me right from wrong and to be respectful to them.

That's not respect, it's fear. You don't need to scare you children or to beat them to teach them a lesson.

My mom used a big wooden spoon too! Dad only had to snap the belt and we all fell in line. None of my siblings has been in serious trouble with the law and we turned out halfway decent.

I was spanked once and I don't know if my brother was ever spanked (he's a doctor), although I did spend a lot of time in my room. We didn't turn out only HALFWAY decent. We respect our parents and don't fear them. We still go on vacations together. Spend weekends together at the cabin, all holidays and birthdays. My family does our own thing and the same as my brothers family, yet we still make time for our parents. They took time to go to events when we were children. My dad was my baseball coach and my mom was my cub scout den leader. That's how you gain respect, not with a wooden spoon or a belt. I think a swat on the butt may be warranted at times, but a grown adult having to use a weapon on a child is inexcusable. What would happen as an adult if you where to attack an unarmed person with a weapon?

 

[Jim Oaks]

I have a wooden paddle hanging on my wall. I've used it on each of my kids once. They knew I had it. They were warned. I kept my word. Do they get in trouble from time to time.....yes. They're kids. If they would get to far out of line and not listen I would warn them. Grounding them can only go sa far. They know that if they don't shape up, there's a paddle at the end of that rope. If I get to the point where I have to mention the paddle, they straighten right up.

My kids know there's a consequence for things and that I'm serious and will punish them if I need to. I've always made the punishment fit the crime. I've stuck to my word, and I've been fair. My ex-wife said I would make the kids fear me. I now have a better relationship with them than she does. Not because they fear me, because we have fun, I treat each one fair and equally, I look out for them and am always there when they need me, and because they know their boundries with me.

Fear is a good thing. It's what keeps society in check and most people out of trouble. If you have a kid with no fear and no respect, you have a problem on your hands.

 

[Ozwynn]

You know the whole thing here could have been avoided. My daughter carries a cell phone, she has demonstrated the level of responsibility required to carry one ..... plus its GPS enabled and I am supposed to be able to track her phone in real time.... I haven't tried yet........... She could have called me ....... even right at 5 and said she was going to be late ...... punishment could have been avoided ....

anyways I am going to give her time off for good behavior...... I am suspending the second week.

BTW ..... I don't consider a belt a weapon ..... I use a belt .... doesn't do any real damage, stings more than it hurts...... has 10x the fear factor..... and my arthritic left hand doesn't hurt after spanking .....

 

[Ranger Dave (B25)]

That's not respect, it's fear. You don't need to scare you children or to beat them to teach them a lesson.


I was spanked once and I don't know if my brother was ever spanked (he's a doctor), although I did spend a lot of time in my room. We didn't turn out only HALFWAY decent. We respect our parents and don't fear them. We still go on vacations together. Spend weekends together at the cabin, all holidays and birthdays. My family does our own thing and the same as my brothers family, yet we still make time for our parents. They took time to go to events when we were children. My dad was my baseball coach and my mom was my cub scout den leader. That's how you gain respect, not with a wooden spoon or a belt. I think a swat on the butt may be warranted at times, but a grown adult having to use a weapon on a child is inexcusable. What would happen as an adult if you where to attack an unarmed person with a weapon?

Comes down to this, Jay:

You raise your kids as you see fit, I'll do the same (actually, already have). But don't you tell me what I have to do as a parent to make you happy. Because it's nobody's damn business but my own.

I think that's the point of the original post. And I concur.

 

[Jason]

I just had a conference with my daughters teacher. She isn't impressed with the "no child" BS either and now understands my standpoint on this.

I used the car business as my example. It went kind of like this:

Parents need to accept their child for who they are and what they can do. In the car business, this is shown perfectly.

You start with a brilliant designer to draw the concept. Then an amazing engineer to make the design feasible. Next you need people with the skills to make all the components of the car. Then the marketers come in, and use their unique skills to make people desire the vehicle. You need truckers to safely get the parts to the assembly plant, which takes skill. Then you need all the people with the proper knowledge to assemble that vehicle. THEN, you need savvy salespeople to get the public to buy that vehicle and FINALLY you need the men and women with the vast knowledge to keep them running and maintained.

But through all of that, when those people get hungry at lunch time, the burgers and fries won't cook themselves. We need people to do all of these things and parents need to live with the cards they dealt their kid.

 

[JohnnyO]

IMO five minutes late isn't enough to worry about. It always baffled me why school would punish you for being late but didn't do anything if you weren't there at all.
.02.

 

[Ozwynn]

IMO five minutes late isn't enough to worry about. It always baffled me why school would punish you for being late but didn't do anything if you weren't there at all.
.02.

it wasn't the 5 min ....... it is the chronic lateness. plus the cat knows when it is 5 pm and time for his dinner ..... right at 5 pm (you can set your clock by it) he waits at the door (because he knows his food is on the porch) and goes "Meow..... Meow....... meow......." ...... until he gets fed. you explain to my senior citizen cat why his dinner is late ...... and it is her chore ...... her only chore to feed and water the cats......

 

[Jason]

In the real world, 5 minutes can be alot. I used to hear guys complain about not getting enough hours even though they came in a few minutes late for every shift. It drove me ****ing nuts.

Soooo. I hatched a plan. Every minute a person was late, was an hour they would not work next week. If they amassed over 40 minutes, or whatever the case may have been, they got an unpaid week off. I would work doubles to cover their shifts if need be.

3 weeks in, tardiness was absent. Everyone came in on time. I worked in a place where 10 minutes early was 5 minutes late. I was expected to be ready to work at my start time, not just getting there. I like that model and held my employees to that same standard. I was there 45 minutes early everyday and normally stayed beyond my "scheduled" time.

 

[AllanD]

hahaha yea i know but it was easier for me just to type the real time some of us know military time and others dont so to be fair i just typed the real time

and some of us automatically "see" local time, "military time" and Zulu/UCT time without even thinking about it.

And I automatically compensate for when talking to people
in other time zones...

But what REALLY screws me up is when some piece of equipment automatically adjusts itself to local time (like my cell phone does)
when crossing time zone boundries.

That concludes this thread hijack


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