how much bind?

[swynx]

So I haven't gotten to use my 4 hi alot. We just got like 8 inches of snow so I've been using it. I have both hubs locked in. When cornering it pops alot. So much so that if I'm backing out of a parking spot and I'm just letting the clutch out to get rolling it'll roll then stop I gotta give it gas to move because its binding. I can crawl up our hill in 4 hi. My buddy had tto use his rear locker and 4 low. Maybe his truck just sucks. Its a Tacoma after all.

When I hit ice it will push around a corner and under steer really bad.

I'm wondering if the previous owner welded the front. He has a welder and he's redneck like that. I don't currently have my jack to Jack it up but when I do both tires should turn together? To indicate its welded?

Unless if this is normal on these trucks? Don't remember this on my other rbvs. Is it because of u joints and not having cv axles?

 

[Beef52751]

My guess is that the outer joints in the axle are toast so they are binding when you turn the wheels. That's where I would start anyways

 

[adsm08]

Yeah, sounds excessive to me as well.

On my BII I can get most of the way through a turn before it starts to hop on dry pavement.

 

[ab_slack]

What adsm said.

When I have test drove 4wd capable one quick test I do is lock the hubs and engage the 4WD turn the wheels and then move forward or reverse to see if it start to bind and resist (I don't force it). That tells me that the transfer case does engage and that both hubs locked. If one of those doesn't happen slip is possible and it won't bind. It usually turns a good 40 deg or so.


I then move back to unwind and repeat with the transfer case in 2wd. In the latter it shouldn't bind. This is just a gross check that nothing else in the front end is binding and that transfer case disengages.

If there was snow on the ground and there should be sufficient slip and there shouldn't have been binding. Now with wheels cranked to their limit, it is normal to feel it a little from the u-joints in the steering since they aren't CV joints.

Now if snow was cleared and there was salt down there may have been enough traction but it shouldn't have binded that bad.

I have done a quick bind

 

[swynx]

I figured it had to do with the u joints. The u joint(s) started making noise in 4hi above 35 the day after I posted this.

 

[ab_slack]

I figured it had to do with the u joints. The u joint(s) started making noise in 4hi above 35 the day after I posted this.

If it is the u-joints I would expect the problem to be there when hubs are locked and transfer case set for 2WD. An easy test if manual locking hubs. That isn't the only thing that can cause problems when the transfer case is in 2WD, but it shouldn't require being in 4WD to notice that. Tho I suppose in 4WD it does put some more stress on them.

 

[swynx]

I put mine in 4wd backwards. I got rid of the electric motor and have to crawl under to put it in 4 wheel. So I leave it in 4 hi and unlock the hubs. All of the signs go away. Ill try it in 2 wd with hubs locked.