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high idle problems


newbski

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City
Michigan
Vehicle Year
1990
1997
Transmission
Manual
My ldle screw is backed down all the way ive gone threw a dozen cans of carb cleaner still nothing. Ive thore my tb apart countles times and cleaned it. My cables dont have any roughnes to them. But im still idling at 1200. Its done this sence day one and I cant think of any thing else to do. Thank you for the help in advance.

90 b2 2.9
 
So for sure no vacuum leak.................?

Remove the IAC valve and plug that hole, could be the IAC isn't closing or valve is bad.
See if idle drops.

Unplug TPS, it could be telling computer throttle is open.
 
As Ron eluded to, your idle control valve is what keeps the idle in check. It dithers, allowing the amount of air in needed to keep the RPM at idle. That way you TB can be shut. There is a procedure for setting the idle on an EEC IV system, assuming all parts are functioning. Have you ever done this??
 
I bought my b2 2yrs ago the only I have done to the motor is put the right plugs, wires and dis on it. I have taken some vac lines off and pluged them and either got no difference or a stall. I have replaced one vacuum line that looked kinda skechey but no diffrence.
 
Here's a way to do it:

Having to set the base idle on an EEC-IV equipped rig is rare because they come set from the factory and they (Ford) say not to mess with it. However, there are times that it is necessary such as when someone replaces the throttle body for whatever reason. Even the companies that manufacture throttle bodies say that they set them up for a proper base idle speed, but that does not always turn out to be true.

Prior to setting the base idle, the throttle body and the IAC must be clean and free of carbon build-up.

Once it has been established that the TB and that IAC are clean and dry, attempt to start the motor. If it will stay running on it's own, great. If not, turn the stop screw on the TB until it will run on it's own. Once you get it to where it will stay running, disconnect the IAC. If the motor dies at this point, the start the motor back up and turn up the stop screw until it will stay running. Now you want to set idle speed via the stop screw to the lowest setting possible between 650-850 rpms with IAC disconnected. It is key to use the lowest possible idle speed at this point to prevent a surging idle once the IAC is hooked back up. Once the lowest possible idle speed is set, shut off the motor and hook up the IAC. With the key on and the engine off, check the TPS voltage. It should be between 0.80 volts and 1 volt. If the TPS reading is outside of that range, don't panic. If the TPS reading is within 0.60 volts and 1.10 volts, it's still acceptable, since no TPS failure codes will be generated, and it falls within the EEC-IV 0.50 volts to 1.19 volts operating range. However, 0.80 volts to 1 volt is the norm. Once a TPS reading has been attained and it is determined that the value is acceptable, disconnect the battery negative cable and leave it disconnected for about 5 minutes. Then re-connect the battery and allow the motor to idle for about 5 minutes to make sure the set-up is operational. If idle speed falls too low or the motor dies, increase idle speed via the stop screw a little bit at a time. Shut the motor off and let it sit for about 1 minute the re-start the motor. Let it run for a few minutes and adjust the stop screw a little bit at a time as needed. If a desirable idle is achieved, then leave the stop screw alone and double check the TPS value. If the idle speed needs more adjustment, repeat the last few steps. If the TPS ends up out of the operational range, the it may need to be adjusted. To do that, you loosen up the fasteners that hold it in place and rotate it one way or the other depending on which direction you need to go. The mounting holes of the TPS may need to be over sized to allow for further adjustment, but this is not usually the case.

Side note: There is no need to reset the EEC-IV since the TPS minimum value used for idle control is reset automatically by the EEC-IV every time the key is cycled on-off with 20 seconds in the on position.
 
i will give that a go this weekend and post results. Im currently knee deep in problems with the wife's Cadillac witch started off as just a starter.
 
Well check closely for a vacuum leak first. If there is none, then do the idle set as described.
 
Did you replace the PCV and did you disconnect the brake booster and plug it also.
 
The EEC-IV reset worked a nice 700-725 idle and room for adjusting thanks for all the advice.
 
Nice work :icon_thumby:

Thanks for reporting the fix :)
 

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