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[rusty ol ranger]

......and numbers dont mean everything.

My 400 will blast up any hill in 4th with power to spare....never once have i had to downshift up a steep hill (Except with 10000lbs+ of heavy equipment on it, then i hit third and bury the secondaries, didnt really have to but i was only going 40MPH anyways...made my blood shake, what an awesome feeling), anyways, if you wanna run a Diesel then I guess its your decsion.....but empty and empty my 400 is going to smack that 6.2L around.....and not really be any different with a load. Except ill use 3X the fuel.

My buddies 6.2L and his dads 6.5L sure wasnt anything special. The 6.5L runs good now that its almost 100% rebuilt got alot of work done to it......the 6.2L was always a turd.

The big gassers out there nowadays run as good as the Diesels, with or without a load. It just depends really on if you prefer spark plugs or glow plugs.

My two friends had 2 identical trucks, 02 Chevys 3\4tons ext cab reg box's, 3.73 in each, auto in each, one with a 8.1 and one with the 6.6 Duramax. Two mud trucks on a tri axle gooseneck and the 6.6 was running with its tounge hanging out. The 8.1 just rumbled along like nothing was there.

Diesels are fine in Semis, heavy equipment, busses, etc. But in a pickup a big block gasser just has alot of advatages. Except for fuel consumption.

later,
Dustin

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

My two friends had 2 identical trucks, 02 Chevys 3\4tons ext cab reg box's, 3.73 in each, auto in each, one with a 8.1 and one with the 6.6 Duramax. Two mud trucks on a tri axle gooseneck and the 6.6 was running with its tounge hanging out. The 8.1 just rumbled along like nothing was there.

Diesels are fine in Semis, heavy equipment, busses, etc. But in a pickup a big block gasser just has alot of advatages. Except for fuel consumption.

later,
Dustin

I know ours is far from mint, and is 110% stock down to the 2bbl carb, but our F-350 was huffing and puffing with two 4500 tractors on a trailer that probably weighs the same again plus a bed full of tools. I don't know what "two mud trucks" weigh our 400 wasn't exactly thrilled with what we hooked on it, this was 5 years ago when it was feeling alot better than it is now.

Here is what we had on it, I had my Ranger parked there for unique photo opertunity. The F-350 is behind it and hooked to the trailer, you can see its tire behind mine.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/291000-291999/291515_27_full.jpg

I think we have pretty much beat this poor topic way off course...

 

[rusty ol ranger]

What gears do you have?

And you got an Automatic.

A C6 takes 55HP and somehting like 80FTlbs right off the top just to turn the thing.

later,
Dustin

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I believe it is a T-18 and pretty deep gears, probably 4.10's but we have never looked it up. It is the creaper 4sd and it will downright crawl, you can skip first and cruise around town in fourth easily, it will take off in any gear on level ground without a trailer. It is far from a high geared wimpy mall crawler, I think the only frilly option was A/C, which is inop. It was a farm truck before we got it, the bed has waves between the side to side supports from hauling stuff, and it had the gooseneck plate in it when we got from hauling hogs an hour and a half to Omaha once a week. It is a work truck and looks like it.

It ran good back in the day, but even then I don't think I would put it up against a remotely new (or anything with a turbo) diesel.

 

[Will]

It's getting worse.

You bitch that I'm out to get you, then you give another tirade of ridiculous crap.

You're out to get yourself.

But while I quake in fear of an anemic 7-1 compression 400 Ford. See if this looks like your neighbors 6.2.

 

[2manyfords]

I've had some experience with the Ford 400 V8 and I've always thought they were kind of turdish compared to what GM and Chrysler offered back in the day.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

My 400 isnt stock though.....its got a cam, intake, edelbrock carb, headers, etc. Not a wild cam though....just a RV cam.

Id put it against that 6.2L.

85 i thought it was an auto. I got a T18 with 4.30 gears and its got tons of power. I think the 4bbl is what helps it top end though.

later,
Dustin

 

[Jspafford]

Hold the phone.. Your contridicting yourself there Dustin.

On page number one of your rant you say this, "I cant speak for the Triton V10....my guess is it sucks like all of Fords engines in there trucks after 96. The 4.6L does great in cars though....ill give it credit there."

And now your saying you would rather have a gas engine than a diesel? So what gives. Do you only like chevy gassers or what??

You have obviously never towed anything with a newer Ford. I currently own a 2002 F-250 5.4L 2 Valve Motor. It is mated to the 4R100 Auto, with 3.73 gears. It's rated to tow 7100#. This past winter I towed almost twice that with it, the fifth wheel weighed about 12000# and the only problem I was worried about was the brake controller failing.

I guess I will play along like Will and give a visual.

Trailer Specs:
Montana Model 3400RL Specifications
Weight 11800
Carrying Capacity 3940
Hitch 2000
Length 38' 4

Long live the POS Ford Gasser.

Notice there is no "Powerstroke" emblem on my door.

So back to the original topic, You can buy just about any newer model fullsize pickup and it will be more than capable to tow a B2 on a trailer.

 

[Totalled]

I can't believe Will is still touting his GM trucks with the self destructing diesel.

GM trucks of that vintage are horrible. The fit, finish and material quality is inferior to Ford products, and the 6.2/6.5 is a smoldering turd. Not to mention the interiors suck ass. Good running, long lasting GM diesels are the exception, not the rule.

That said, Ford isn't without their faults. Avoid the 6.0 and the 6.4. Pre powerstroke 7.3s are your best bet, but that is pre superduty. If you are stuck on the superduty style, get a V10 manual. They are an absolute beast that will hand any 460 truck it's ass.

The cummins 12V is probably the better diesel choice... but really... you'd have to drive a Dodge. No one buys a Dodge with a cummins for the Dodge... they buy it for the Cummins. If Ford put the cummins in superdutys, Dodge sales would probably fall by 50%. I mean really. Drive a dodge without the cummins and see if you'd still chose it over a Ford.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

What is wrong with the 6.4? Aside from the overblown flamethrower deal I haven't heard anything bad about them. So far at my brother's dealership they just come in for oil changes, no repairs yet. The late 6.0's are supposed to be the cats meow too.

We have our 1980 F-350 and a 1980 3/4 ton chevy 4x4 for service trucks, they both have cracked dashes, and have about the same ride and rattles. The Ford has more miles but both are well over 100k. If you are greatly concerned about fit and finish a dodge is probably not who you would want to turn to either...

 

[not enoughsmoke]

if u wanna pull get a 03 dodge 6speed put a southbend dual disc and a airdog fuel system then a smarty tunner and a turbo and u got a great puller for a start

 

[skyhigh91]

400 dont compare end of story

 

[Will]

Just when I thought I could beat my nasty reply's into haikus, some one opens the grave.

 

[fordmandan87]

the early 6.4 kept blowing egr coolers and popping radiators but back to the topic chico what were you planning on hauling?

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Wow i was a complete ass in this thread.

Sorry will.

later,
Dustin