Has anyone tried the T56?

[Slipknotyk_Chyld]

Is it even possible? I've been dreaming about a wicked little Ranger with an Eaton M112 on the 5.0, with the T56 6 speed
Please tell me it's possible, and that someone has done it. It would be incredibly frustrating attempting to do this swap, then finding out that it would take an extreme degree of fabrication.

 

[Tominator]

Not any more of a problem than many of the other combos everyone that has done.

I have a Viper Spec Tremec in mine. Moved the cross member back about four inches on the frame and fabricated a new tunnel, though that was only about a foot of floor cut out and a simple sheetmetal box replaced that section.

Keep dreaming and start collecting parts!

 

[Teddyzee]

Look for pictures of Tominator's truck on google. It has a T56 in it.

 

[Teddyzee]

Haha, what timing!

 

[Slipknotyk_Chyld]

So the T56 wouldn't be an incredibly difficult install. Would the M112 clear the stock hood?

 

[RangerSVT]

which 5.0L are you talking about, the pushrod 302 ci or the new coyote 5.0L?? Check out hptv project rolling thunder, they are doing a ranger based mazda (I think its a 99 or 01 b2500) they are installing a 4.6L cobra motor with an M112 on it...
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[Slipknotyk_Chyld]

unfortunately, the pushrod motor because it's only 30 million dollars cheaper! XD and the new one would require a LOT of work to wedge in.
I would like the DOHC, but I know it's a good 3-4 inches wider, and probably 6 inches taller. It would be much better on gas, but the pushrod motor is so much cheaper at the outset. I can have a 500+ HP beast for the same price as the outset with the coyote.

 

[RangerSVT]

What kind of brain machine do you have over there?? You're reading my mind as I'm planning to graft an M112 onto the pushrod 5.0L....planning to make a custom lower intake similar to the one on the 03 cobra is designed...I havent started shopping for a 112, but as soon as I do, I can start taking measurements and go to the design part....
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[Slipknotyk_Chyld]

I already knew there was a kit for the M112 for the 5.0, which is why I selected this combination. The M112 is rather common on Ebay as many of the Terminators junk out their old supercharger for either twinscrew blowers, or twin turbo kits.
Now, I'm wondering if there's some remote possibility that the M112 kit for the 5.0 would work on the 5.8?
I'm pretty glad I'm not running the 4.6 because on some of those, the Alternator sits under the throttle body. That's just bad design imho.

 

[RangerSVT]

I know for sure it wouldn't, the intake for the 5.8 is wider than the 5.0L, about an inch wider IIRC....but either way it would still work...I'm going to look for that 112 kit now, didn't know they had one available...
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[Slipknotyk_Chyld]

I googled it and there's a guy that makes them in the Mustang forums.

On the 5.8, it was worth a try in the mental stages but after a good cam, heads, and headers, the M112 could actually be more of a hindrance

 

[RangerSVT]

I just got done looking at the kits, and they use the lower intake plenum with an adapter plate from the lower to the charger...I was planning to make an intake adapter that goes from the heads straight to the charger, elliminating to lower intake altogether. And for the price that they want the adapter for, I can probably make almost a dozen adapters...
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[Slipknotyk_Chyld]

You may want a separate plenum. Otherwise, where are you going to put your injectors? I would think that X pattern runners from a custom plenum would give you the best opportunity to run all sorts of stuff. You could do stuff like run piggy-backed injectors for better fuel mixtures. Like instead of running 1 30lb injector, you can run 2 16s that come on simultaneously. This is where things become a bit of an art. If you have the resources to create a custom plenum, then you can get crazy!
I don't know where exactly the injectors are on a 5.0 (I would assume they're in the valley on the underside of the intake manifold) but injector placement can make a HUGE difference in terms of power, emissions, mileage, etc. Bad injector placement is largely why Chevy TBI sucks so hardcore.

 

[RangerSVT]

Ford injectors are right on top of the lower plenum at the head, aimed right into the intake ports of the head. I don't plan to deviate from this idea, but I do like the idea of multiple injectors per cylinder, I just might mount them 180* from each other on the side of the runners instead of on top like in the factory location. I will have to check the amperage it takes to open the injector and how muchthe ECU delivers so I don't short out the computer, might have to build a solid state controller for the multiple injectors..Hmm, now you got my wheels turning. I also found the M112's on ebay for around $600...Not too bad, I just might have to pick up a couple of them
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[Slipknotyk_Chyld]

I'd mount one set on top pointing into the port. I'd mount the second set on the underside pointed into the port.
As for the electrical side of the equation, you could run them on a series of relays if need be. The amperage of 2 sets of injectors may be too large for the computer, but it only takes a couple miliamps to run a relay. It may delay the injector pulse slightly... maybe by hundredths of a milisecond... but it would probably work.