For Mustang transmissions made in China??

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They started buying them up in '79, but didn't get a controlling interest until '96.

Design time is what counts, and that happened more than a couple years before they where bought out.

Oh yeah.

WELL I HAVE ICE CREAM!!!

 

[shane96ranger]

I thought Ford had started buying up Mazda much earlier than 96. They had been working on a number of projects together by that point.

Also, that still leaves a great deal of that transmission's production run falling in the time frame when Ford did own Mazda.

They've never actually owned them outright (I always thought they did). According to the Wikipedia their relationship is as follows:

Starting in 1979 with a 7-percent financial stake, Ford began a partnership with Mazda.....

During the 1980s, Ford gained another 20-percent financial stake......

Further financial difficulties at Mazda during the 1990s...... caused Ford to increase its stake to a 33.4-percent controlling interest in May 1996.........

On November 18, 2008, Ford announced that it would be selling a 20% stake in Mazda, bringing its stake to 13.4%, and surrendering control of the company

 

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They've never actually owned them outright (I always thought they did). According to the Wikipedia their relationship is as follows:

Ford has done this for years, buy another company, usually one perceived as high quality, learn how they do things, test-bed some new technology there before putting it in the Fords, and then sell them off when finished. They have been more aggressive with it lately, and never owned anything as long as they've had their stake in Mazda.

Heck, a lot of the fancier options that my mom's 2001 Volvo CX70 had, I'm starting to see them in new Fords. Only difference is that the stuff on the Ford's works better.

 

[shane96ranger]

Ford has done this for years, buy another company, usually one perceived as high quality, learn how they do things, test-bed some new technology there before putting it in the Fords, and then sell them off when finished. They have been more aggressive with it lately, and never owned anything as long as they've had their stake in Mazda.

Heck, a lot of the fancier options that my mom's 2001 Volvo CX70 had, I'm starting to see them in new Fords. Only difference is that the stuff on the Ford's works better.

What did they gain from owning Land Rover? (Serious question) I've noticed they gained a lot from Volvo, but wondered about Land Rover.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Ford has done this for years, buy another company, usually one perceived as high quality, learn how they do things, test-bed some new technology there before putting it in the Fords, and then sell them off when finished. They have been more aggressive with it lately, and never owned anything as long as they've had their stake in Mazda.

Heck, a lot of the fancier options that my mom's 2001 Volvo CX70 had, I'm starting to see them in new Fords. Only difference is that the stuff on the Ford's works better.

I think they also used Mazda as a ginni pig for awhile too. "Lets try it out on the company that doesn't mean anything to us and see how it works out"..."ok that worked well, a little more work and it is good enough for us"

What did they gain from owning Land Rover? (Serious question) I've noticed they gained a lot from Volvo, but wondered about Land Rover.

A financial drain.

 

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What did they gain from owning Land Rover? (Serious question) I've noticed they gained a lot from Volvo, but wondered about Land Rover.

A financial drain.

And an Escape with the hood release on the right hand kick panel that uses 5-50 oil.

 

[pillen140]

and most of the Mustang transmissions from about 1980 on and most of the F-150 trannies in the 90s were Tremecs, which strongly resemble certain BW transmissions.
Bro.

a t-5 is a borg warner unit so is a t56. if you said later mustangs used tremecs, that would make more sense because tremec started producing the bw transmissions in around 1998 or 1999. tremec pretty much just produces the transmission that bw designed and built.

 

[pillen140]

....ps, most of those tremecs were made in mexico anyway. either way, not made in america.

 

[Mac]

And going back to the mid '60's, the six cylinder Mustangs were using the Dagenham 4-speed produced in England, in early 70's they were using the Getrag from Germany, the ZF heavy duty trans used in the "F" series was also made in Germany. All the 4.6's came from the Essex plant in Canada. It's really getting to be a global suppliers market out there.
Dave of the Nord

 

[RustedRanger]

One of reasons why things from China are cheaper is the unfair tax breaks and incentives that Chinese companies get that companies in the U.S.A do not get. I saw on the news the other day that it is cheaper to ship a bale of hay to China then it is to ship one across the country to Texas....

 

[AllanD]

One of reasons why things from China are cheaper is the unfair tax breaks and incentives that Chinese companies get that companies in the U.S.A do not get. I saw on the news the other day that it is cheaper to ship a bale of hay to China then it is to ship one across the country to Texas....

That has something to do with EMPTY ships that are going to china (for another load of chinese goods) anyway...


Once upon a time it was financially practical to ship dirty laundry to China to have it washed rather than wash it in San Francisco.

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[cody93]

That has something to do with EMPTY ships that are going to china (for another load of chinese goods) anyway...


Once upon a time it was financially practical to ship dirty laundry to China to have it washed rather than wash it in San Francisco.

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lol, im adding that one to my signature

 

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And going back to the mid '60's, the six cylinder Mustangs were using the Dagenham 4-speed produced in England, in early 70's they were using the Getrag from Germany, the ZF heavy duty trans used in the "F" series was also made in Germany. All the 4.6's came from the Essex plant in Canada. It's really getting to be a global suppliers market out there.
Dave of the Nord

The 4.2, not the 4.6.

 

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a t-5 is a borg warner unit so is a t56. if you said later mustangs used tremecs, that would make more sense because tremec started producing the bw transmissions in around 1998 or 1999. tremec pretty much just produces the transmission that bw designed and built.

That's how a lot of parts are. A lot of Ford's electronics are Bosch built to Ford specs.

I remember when I first hopped under the S-10 to put a clutch in it and took my first look at the trans. I was all "holy crap, that's a T-5. This isn't going to be fun getting it in and out."

And I was right.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

The 4.2, not the 4.6.

The Essex plant is in Windsor Onterio, so that could cause some confusion (although I think all the Mustang 4.6's were Romeo's) The new "Coyote" 5.0 is built in the Essex plant though.

Not really much of an import at any rate, if somebody with a ruler laid out the border they would be well with the US, just across the river to the east of Detroit.