Fed up!

[ranger1943]

This might get long but bear with me.

My beloved 96 Ford Ranger XLT 2.3L has had a shimmy (in steering wheel, and seats) for at least a year now and it slowly developed a rattle/clunk under the driver side floor board. I am at my wits end trying to diagnose it. The following describes the steps taken and the results:

Front wheel bearings replaced - due to play in the hubs - no noticeable difference in shimmy
Tires balanced - little change in shimmy
Tires replaced - (end of life) balanced and aligned - some change to shimmy
motor mounts replaced - passenger side was shot - some change to shimmy
tires road force balanced - some change to shimmy
radius arm bushings changed - some change to shimmy

All tie rod ends, ball joints, and sway bar bushings seem tight to me and have been checked by 3 different shops, all say they are good.

Today, I had my son start the truck and turn the wheel back and forth while I lay under the truck and watch the steering linkage. The only noticeable "play" is where the pitman arm and drag link connect. When the wheel is turned to its farthest point in either direction I notice a quarter inch or so deviation between the pitman arm and drag link end. As he turns the wheel in short bursts near the farthest point I can feel a slight knock in the sway bar and near the steering pump on the inner tie rod ends, but cant pinpoint its exact location. I can also feel a small knock intermittently in my steering wheel when starting or stopping.

During the road force balance they were unable to bring two of the tires into the 30lb limit so I think that is causing some of my shimmy/vibration. My main concern is the knocking and looseness in the steering wheel that I am unable to diagnose. I suspect the inner tie rod ends but don't want to spend more money until I am sure of the issue.

I also just had it aligned again about two weeks ago when I had the radius bushings changed. The shop said it was pulling left. I just noticed it starting to pull left already, so I don't think the truck is holding an alignment. Doesn't that point to worn tie rods?

Can I have looseness in the tie rod end and not see play? Should there be any play at all on the inner tie rod ends? Both have a little bit of movement.

Thanks in advance for anyone's help. I am rather handy and have learned a lot from these forums.

 

[4x4junkie]

I'm thinking anything at all loose could cause a knock or clunk in the wheel... I'd certainly be looking closer at the draglink at the pitman arm if you think you're seeing some play there.

Is the tire place doing a proper dynamic balance on your wheels? (puts weight on BOTH sides of the rims)? If not, this could certainly lead to shaking or a shimmy in the steering wheel.

 

[ranger1943]

Thanks for the response junkie.

I'm thinking anything at all loose could cause a knock or clunk in the wheel... I'd certainly be looking closer at the draglink at the pitman arm if you think you're seeing some play there.

Agreed, and that is just the thing. I cannot find anything broken, loose, or worn out anywhere in the front end. No matter where I put the jackstand to try and shift the weight off the front end components, I see no play. The only thing out of the ordinary is how the inner tie rod ends move under load. But all the mechanics that have looked at it don't see them as bad. i would think if anything the shops would want to change them just to make money.

I should note that all my tie rod end boots have split, but I have kept them pretty well greased.

Is the tire place doing a proper dynamic balance on your wheels? (puts weight on BOTH sides of the rims)? If not, this could certainly lead to shaking or a shimmy in the steering wheel.

Yes I have weights on the inner and outer portions of the rims.

 

[gn2]

My beloved 96 Ford Ranger XLT 2.3L has had a shimmy (in steering wheel, and seats) for at least a year now and it slowly developed a rattle/clunk under the driver side floor board. I am at my wits end trying to diagnose it. The following describes the steps taken and the results:

Sounds like the radius arm bushing or brackets are due. Or perhaps a steering column bearing, or body mount?

 

[ranger1943]

Sounds like the radius arm bushing.....

Had those changed two weeks ago, still clunks.

 

[exbass94]

If you're feeling it mostly in the seat and not the steering wheel, it's probably something related to the rear suspension. Your rear brake drums could be out of round.

 

[Earl43P]

"rattle/clunk under the driver side floor board."

"The only noticeable "play" is where the pitman arm and drag link connect. When the wheel is turned to its farthest point in either direction I notice a quarter inch or so deviation between the pitman arm and drag link end."


Play there (center link) will cause the steering to wander. 1/4" of play is excessive.

 

[ranger1943]

Looks like it will end up being my axle pivot bushings. Got under there and noticed the passenger side bushing (located under the drivers side) was shiny metal indicating it moving around. I could never get the weight off it right in order to move it by hand. The concern now is whether the end link has become an oval. If it has I will have to change the axle as well.

 

[ranger1943]

The saga continues

Both axle pivot bushings replaced. One side was showing extensive wear and the axle was pushed all the way to the back of the bracket, bending the bracket. On the way home over my usual bumps I hear/feel the dreaded clunk clunk under my feet.

The truck definitely rides better, but it did not solve my issue.

I guess I will keep looking.

 

[Snoranger]

Both axle pivot bushings replaced. One side was showing extensive wear and the axle was pushed all the way to the back of the bracket, bending the bracket. On the way home over my usual bumps I hear/feel the dreaded clunk clunk under my feet.

The truck definitely rides better, but it did not solve my issue.

I guess I will keep looking.

Check your body mounts and bolts. They wont cause a shimmy, but a worn mount will allow the body to bounce a little and give a clunk, clunk.

 

[ranger1943]

More investigation same results - sortof

Checked all body mounts - all tight
Checked transmission cross-member and mount - good
Checked all shocks and mounts - tightened the two pass side shock mounts

Checked front and rear U-Joints- no noticeable play, but I can move the drive line by hand and the whole thing can twist back and forth. Like there is movement in the differential and transmission. I assume there should be some?

Removed drums and check rear axle shafts and bearings - very little play and no leakage from bearings

Removed sway bar assembly and noticed the top sway bar end-links are cracked, and bushings are pretty much shot. When I drove the truck with the sway bar removed the noise seems more prevalent especially when the weight shifts to the passenger side of the truck. But nothing is loose or worn.

One word describes me now....................baffled.

 

[ranger1943]

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Changed out sway bar end links. The radius arm bushings, axle pivot bushings, and sway bar end links really tightened up the front of the truck.

But alas, the noise persists. I guess I will keep monitoring it to try and track down what it is. Whatever it is, I feel like at this point it is not a safety concern with all the front end stuff I have replaced. When I get some more free time I might take apart the drivers side wheel assembly to see if it might be something related to the hub or brakes, but I doubt it.

 

[fangotango306]

sounds like what my 94 did when the steering box was getting warn. replaced it and pulled the old one apart and found a big crack in one of the bushings. i dunno if this helps and it was about 6 yrs ago so i dont remember too much on details but the reman box i bought fixed this issue. we thought it was a suspension issue for a very long time.

 

[triumphrider-1]

Is this a 2wd, or 4wd?

 

[ranger1943]

2wd.