Fawk doublers.....lets talk triplers.....

[zachis4wheeling]

So enlighten me all you 100+ crawl club boys and possibly girls......whata ya think? Is it economically possible to set up a tripler with 3 BW 1350s or 1354s? For the guys out there who want to keep the stock drivetrain and try and run 44s and bigger???? I understand that anything is possible for a price.....but whata ya guys think?

Zach

 

[bobbywalter]

some rigs just run a manual backwards into a t case with custom slip shafts.


some use semi tractor stuff like a road ranger ect.


a klune into an atlas 4 speed would give you all the options...get the tall gear 4 speed, run the klune and you gots some axle destroying options mangg.

i am partial to an atlas 4 speed though. its cost effective in my eyes.

 

[zachis4wheeling]

a klune into an atlas 4 speed would give you all the options...get the tall gear 4 speed, run the klune and you gots some axle destroying options mangg.

i am partial to an atlas 4 speed though. its cost effective in my eyes.

yea, it is very cost effective....just costly tho......

I'm just lookin at some cheaper opions options that might be feasible for us RBV guys...

 

[Evan]

So enlighten me all you 100+ crawl club boys and possibly girls......whata ya think? Is it economically possible to set up a tripler with 3 BW 1350s or 1354s? For the guys out there who want to keep the stock drivetrain and try and run 44s and bigger???? I understand that anything is possible for a price.....but whata ya guys think?

Zach

Sure it's economical. It cost me $400 or so for my doubler, so a tripler would cost $800. A doubler with 5.13s is plenty good enough to turn 44s though. You have some added complexity with a tripler and with BIIs you might run into driveline length issues.

Personally, if I were running 44s, a doubler, and 5.13s and still didn't have enough gearing, I'd go with a 302 into an NP435 into a 203/205 doubler.

 

[4x4junkie]

Once you're at the point where you can just idle up anything without having the engine stall, I don't see any reason to go deeper than that.

A doubler reaches this point quite easily (especially if you have a 4.0L).

 

[mhughes165]

Sure it's economical. It cost me $400 or so for my doubler, so a tripler would cost $800. A doubler with 5.13s is plenty good enough to turn 44s though. You have some added complexity with a tripler and with BIIs you might run into driveline length issues.

Personally, if I were running 44s, a doubler, and 5.13s and still didn't have enough gearing, I'd go with a 302 into an NP435 into a 203/205 doubler.

i could see the possibilty of a trippler if u planned on rock crawling while borrowing big foots tires lol

np435 gearing
1st 2nd 3rd 4th
NP 435 6.69 3.34 1.79 1.00

 

[zachis4wheeling]

i could see the possibilty of a trippler if u planned on rock crawling while borrowing big foots tires

exactaly.....lol......like I said tho....in theory, anyone think this would work?

 

[Evan]

exactaly.....lol......like I said tho....in theory, anyone think this would work?

Sure. It would definitely work, except maybe on a BII.

 

[mhughes165]

Sure. It would definitely work, except maybe on a BII.

u would need atleast a longbed ranger to make something like that work, the size of the tires is just retarded for a bII lol, but also, in theory u would want a set of 5 tons aswell....

 

[BlackBII]

Once you're at the point where you can just idle up anything without having the engine stall, I don't see any reason to go deeper than that.

A doubler reaches this point quite easily (especially if you have a 4.0L).

I agree with Junkie here,

And unless your running monster truck tires, A doubler with the right gears in the axles will crawl anywhere.....

 

[zachis4wheeling]

I think it'd be something worth looking into.....

Think a set of built to the hilt one tons.....(4340 chromo shafts, yukon CTM or longfield joints, and 35 or 40 spline shafts with lockers and like 5.13s).....ya guys think you'd still be breaking one ton axles witha tripler..?

 

[metalmacguyver]

A tripler would probably put you in the 200+ club. You would break one ton shafts with a weed wacker motor.

 

[CheapThrillB2]

if you geared so low to the point you wouldn't move???

i mean seriously, my 4.0L m5ord 1350/54 with 3.73s and 36's in first gear maxed out rpm and like 4 mph......that was under 100:1

if you go 200:1 that would be serious slow crawl

 

[Evan]

if you geared so low to the point you wouldn't move???

i mean seriously, my 4.0L m5ord 1350/54 with 3.73s and 36's in first gear maxed out rpm and like 4 mph......that was under 100:1

if you go 200:1 that would be serious slow crawl

There were actually (rarely) a few times when I was at 83:1 with 33s where even lower gearing would have been nice. The kind of stuff where you're going up an almost vertical large obsticle and are in danger of rolling so you wanna go real slow.

Now that I'm at 117:1 with 35s I still have not gone wheelin yet and am eager to see what the new crawl is like. But I am guessing one would never need much lower gearing than 117. When you get to a certain point it's just about bragging rights. That point is probably somewhere in between 150 and 200.

 

[Todd]

Manual trans into an auto trans with manual valve body/slap shift, then into the t-case. Just think of the possibilities there!!!!