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So I don't know...
Do you have to use quick charge?
Could you use regular 120V but for overnight?
Is there an adapter to do that?
How many different plugs for EV's are there?
 
JoshT said:
I feel that average is very misleading. That may be the median, but the swing is huge. The big end of that bell curve is way below 50 miles/day. In fact I'd say the majority is less than half that. A whole lot of people doing way less than 50, against a few people that do WAY more than 50.

For myself, if I drove straight to work and straight home I'd have to recharge every 3 days. That rarely happens, I can't guarantee the ability to charge like that. A single trip to my hunting property I'd be on the equivalent of fumes when I get home, if I made it home.




I think the rest of us are.

So should we be writing it tESLA?
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It's hard to tell when I am shitposting, and when I'm not.

For reference: I'm always shitposting, even when I'm not.

But I've never seen someone with high test driving an EV.

I've also never seen someone write a research paper that can squat more than 1 plate, but that's neither here nor there.
 
alwaysFlOoReD said:
So I don't know...
Do you have to use quick charge?
Could you use regular 120V but for overnight?
Is there an adapter to do that?
How many different plugs for EV's are there?
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All EVs come with a "Level 1" plug interface that will work with any 120vAC 15amp outlet, slow charge but not no charge`
Generally 1 hour = 6miles of Range, so 10 hours = 60 miles

Normal is "Level 2" which is 240vAC 30-40 amp, so like an oven or dryer outlet
1 hour = 25 miles, 10 hours = 250 miles
In most homes an automatic Override switch is installed on dryer or oven circuit, you plug in the EV and if you use the dryer or oven it automatically disconnects EV so oven or drier can be used for the 2 to 4 hours, as needed, then switches back to charging EV

"Fast charging" can be done on most EVs now, but its still 30min-hour for full charge, I imagine the 10-15min is doable
But EV needs to have the ability to Fast Charge, not just the charging station
And "full charge" is not something everyone needs to get home to do a regular charge, so 5-10min Fast Charge should get you another 70-100 miles
"Fill 'er up" is not something you have to do if you can charge at home


Stopping at gas stations can be an inconvenience, we are just used to HAVING to do it, and "filling 'er up"
I know I will be home at some point, lol, so can charge up as needed, no extra stops on the way home
And can then relax and let someone else(local electric company) "fill 'er up"

I will probably never buy an EV for myself, I am just used to ICE
But I understand the NEED for them
"Don't shit where you eat"
A wise, if not obvious, statement, lol
Well, we have been shitting where we eat for a long time, and we can now start to taste the shit, and it ain't good eating
 
@RonD, you have a few things incorrect.

On the Ford vehicles, the 120V charger gives you 3 miles of range per hour of charging, so charging 10 hours gets you only 30 miles down the road.
Level 2 chargers are 10 miles of range per hour of charging, so 10 hours gets you 100 miles.

Fast charging only charges to 80% because using fast charging rates beyond 80% results in permanent damage to the battery pack. When fast charging, after 80% the charging rate goes down to level 2 rate but it is recommended to stop at 80% when using fast charging.

And if you don't think EVs are being forced on people, you apparently have not been paying attention to the news. After 2035, it will not be possible to buy a new non-EV vehicle in CA and several other states. And that includes heavy trucks and soon will include train locomotives.
 
1990RangerinSK said:
It's a 300 mile round trip from where I live, and I can get pretty much everything I need here.
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Wait...

Wait wait wait....

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This you??
 
rubydist said:
@RonD, you have a few things incorrect.

On the Ford vehicles, the 120V charger gives you 3 miles of range per hour of charging, so charging 10 hours gets you only 30 miles down the road.
Level 2 chargers are 10 miles of range per hour of charging, so 10 hours gets you 100 miles.

Fast charging only charges to 80% because using fast charging rates beyond 80% results in permanent damage to the battery pack. When fast charging, after 80% the charging rate goes down to level 2 rate but it is recommended to stop at 80% when using fast charging.

And if you don't think EVs are being forced on people, you apparently have not been paying attention to the news. After 2035, it will not be possible to buy a new non-EV vehicle in CA and several other states. And that includes heavy trucks and soon will include train locomotives.
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Range by charge is based on the model of EV, so not a fixed volts/time/miles
Yes, I did quote lighter more efficient EV hours/miles

Yes, 80% fast charge is the limit of most EVs, but you also don't need to charge to 80%, you can charge to 20%, 40%, 60%, ect..........if you are in a hurry, and can fully charge after you get home, that was more the point of what I was saying with fast charging

You don't need to drive around with a full charge
But I also know people who "fill up" if gas tank gets below 3/4, lol, they sweat bullets under 1/2 a tank, so I get the "have to have maximum range" all the time with ICE
But with EVs you can plug in at home, no need to make a special trip to a gas station, just have to get over that "custom" of thinking


No one is coming to take away ICE vehicles
Advertising is not shoving it down anyone's throat, neither are news stories
2035, LMAO, hope it happens
But the way things actually work is that it will be pushed back based on voting, governments always set deadlines, and the deadlines are moved based on politics of the day
In 2034 if the voters still want ICE they will elect politicians that can give them ICE and deadline moves to 2040
Heck emissions deadlines got rolled back so many times it looked like a pinwheel
 
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RonD said:
Range by charge is based on the model of EV, so not a fixed volts/time/miles
Yes, I did quote lighter more efficient EV hours/miles

Yes, 80% fast charge is the limit of most EVs, but you also don't need to charge to 80%, you can charge to 20%, 40%, 60%, ect..........if you are in a hurry, and can fully charge after you get home, that was more the point of what I was saying with fast charging

You don't need to drive around with a full charge
But I also know people who "fill up" if gas tank gets below 3/4, lol, they sweat bullets under 1/2 a tank, so I get the "have to have maximum range" all the time with ICE
But with EVs you can plug in at home, no need to make a special trip to a gas station, just have to get over that "custom" of thinking


No one is coming to take away ICE vehicles
Advertising is not shoving it down anyone's throat, neither are news stories
2035, LMAO, hope it happens
But the way things actually work is that it will be pushed back based on voting, governments always set deadlines, and the deadlines are moved based on politics of the day
In 2034 if the voters still want ICE they will elect politicians that can give them ICE and deadline moves to 2040
Heck emissions deadlines got rolled back so many times it looked like a pinwheel
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Seems its much simpler just to spend 5-10 mins at a gas pump once a week.
 
A big problem is the advertised range. A college somewhere out West (Montana or Colorado, maybe?) did some testing on an EV with a 400 mile range at 70 degrees where the tests are done. Dropping the temperature to 40 degrees cut the range by 24%. It's most always below 40 degrees for months here, so, figure a snow storm at 10 degrees with wipers, heater, and defroster on, lights on, and traffic crawling or stopped due to road conditions. A 400 mile range becomes 100 miles- or less, most likely. Then you get home to find the power out. My generator will run the heat, fridge, well pump, a handful of lights, and the water heater. An ancient Chinese curse said "may you live in interesting times", the next few years will certainly be interesting.
 
Supposedly, the newer models have a heater in the battery pack to minimize the range reduction. Of course, since there is a heater running, range is going to be reduced but not as much as a cold battery experiences.

How much they help, I couldn’t say since the information I saw on it was in passing as I was scrolling for something else.
 
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