electric fan

[Bob Ayers]

Where did you get that information from Bob? Where is a link to it? I think you made that up yourself.

I have done research, it is called HANDS ON; but you wouldn't know anything about that would ya?

Nope, here is the URL for you Maurice!!

http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content?topic=12721.0;wap2


Again, one more reference, and you haven't produced ANY!!!

Why can't you answer the question about all the people on the POLL
being wrong, and you are right about e-fans???

....I'm done!!!!!

 

[mjonesjr]

I have hands on experience with efans on a Ranger.

 

[MAKG]

I have hands on experience with efans on a Ranger.

And a history of bad advice and incorrect information on them.

There is ONE reason to consider an electric fan to be a good thing -- FREQUENT deep water crossings (like, daily). Infrequent ones can be accomplished with a fan wrench. A few times, and you'll have it down to less than a minute to get that fan (and shroud) off. There are no other gains to be made. EVERY one of the people who thinks so -- including you -- has also expressed the belief that electricity to run it came for free. That's wrong.

Can you guarantee that your very limited experience indicates that an electric fan will not cause problems under ANY condition? Will you bankroll the engine replacements you make necessary? I thought not.

Like it or not, the stock system has been tested in much harsher conditions than you have tested these electric fans. There is quite a lot one can do with a billion dollar development budget.

 

[mjonesjr]

And a history of bad advice and incorrect information on them.

Really, prove it.

Again, if efans were NOT reliable, then why do OEM's install them on new 2008 model vehicles? You can't explain it can you?

 

[MAKG]

Really, prove it.

Again, if efans were NOT reliable, then why do OEM's install them on new 2008 model vehicles? You can't explain it can you?

Oh, excuse me. I'm supposed to be so stupid as to not realize you posted under another name while you were banned FOR BAD AND COMBATIVE ADVICE.

OEM, including electric, fans are tested in several proving grounds. One-off pieces of crap like you propose are not tested at anywhere near the same level.

And one can compensate for a weaker fan, by installing a bigger radiator. With a PROPERLY SIZED fan, radiator size should scale with displacement (or more accurately, the peak power). You'll find small cars have disproportionately large radiators, due to the electric fans.

 

[mjonesjr]

Oh, so if someone was to us an OEM fan, then it would still be a piece of crap? BS.

Radiator size for my 4 cylinder Subaru is proportional to the size of a 4.0 Ranger radiator.

 

[MAKG]

An OEM part in a non-OEM application is NOT OEM.

Or did you think Ford actually tested Ford 4.0L Rangers against their Taurus fan?

These are SYSTEMS, and a unit test is not at all adequate to address systemic testing. And just every actual engineer knows that. There is a thing called "integration testing" that you skip at your employment peril.

I'm sure glad you don't work on the aircraft modification I have to depend upon.

 

[exbass94]

If efan's didn't work, then why do OEM's install them in NEW vehicles? Even Ford mounts efan's in new vehicles; all their front wheel drive vehicles have efans.

Electric fans are in every front wheel drive vehicle (not just Fords) because it is impractical to rig up a belt driven fan when the engine is rotated 90 degrees away from the radiator.

 

[mjonesjr]

Electric fans are in every front wheel drive vehicle (not just Fords) because it is impractical to rig up a belt driven fan when the engine is rotated 90 degrees away from the radiator.

My front wheel drive Subaru has a correct facing engine (front of engine at front of vehicle) with an efan.

 

[rangerrager]

i could be very wrong and prob am..but how the hell daies ur car have a regulary mounted engine every front wheel drive vehicle i have seen has a horizontaly mounted engline becuase u ccan hook up the trans and everything..im confused on they they would have mounted there eninge and trans like that in a front wheel drive

 

[mjonesjr]

i could be very wrong and prob am..but how the hell daies ur car have a regulary mounted engine every front wheel drive vehicle i have seen has a horizontaly mounted engline becuase u ccan hook up the trans and everything..im confused on they they would have mounted there eninge and trans like that in a front wheel drive

You are wrong.

Here is a '93 Legacy engine. It is not my car, but it is identical to mine. Notice the firewall behind the engine.

And the link where I got it from:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars...727|39:1|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

And another just incase you think I made it up:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars...727|39:1|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

 

[exbass94]

My front wheel drive Subaru has a correct facing engine (front of engine at front of vehicle) with an efan.

Fine, then every vehicle with a traversely mounted engine, which most FWD vehicles are, have an electric fan for this reason. Better?

 

[BlackBII]

Are we still comparing whether or not an Electric fan will provide benefit over a Mechanical fan on Rangers or just in General?

On a Ranger, in most circumstances, no. The mecanical one does just fine if the clutch is operational. Adding a Electric fan and removing your mechanical will provide no benefit, unless, like MAKG says, your doing drag races in a river.

Why fix it if it's not broken?
They're both going to use energy no matter what, so why go through the hassle of trying to get something to work when it already is? I dunno.

cool beans.

 

[Psychopete]

will it pay fo itself?

Not really. Whether there's savings or not, it would take a really long time to make up for the cost (plus whatever else breaks later on).

In both my Ranger (aftermarket) and Tempo (OEM), it's very easy to tell when they kick on.

And if it means anything, I am more than likely dumping the e-fan I have now when I get my V8 swapped in. I feel better about having something if the "system" breaks, rather than nothing at all if the "system" breaks (efan).

Pete

 

[Wicked_Sludge]

mjones....did you happen to notice that your the only one argueing FOR e-fans? did you ever stop to think, "hey, maybe the 12 other guys on here that are telling me e-fans are not worth it (some of whom have engineering backgrounds) might be onto something"?

im starting to think your just arguing because your afriad to admit defeat.

it doesnt make you any less of a man to admit your wrong...quite the opposite actually.