Dummy t-case

[johnnybronco]

Anyone know if the t-case for a manual tranny is the same for an automatic? I've got the dummy t-case and having a hard time finding a replacement.

 

[Snoranger]

Anyone know if the t-case for a manual tranny is the same for an automatic? I've got the dummy t-case and having a hard time finding a replacement.

Yup, they are the same.

 

[littlezell]

why do you call it the dummy case???? is it true that ford put t-case on these things that really wasnt a t-case but a decoy???

 

[Snoranger]

why do you call it the dummy case???? is it true that ford put t-case on these things that really wasnt a t-case but a decoy???

It was a BW 13-59. Externally, it looks like a 13-50 but the front output is sealed off. Internally, its just a strait through shaft to the rear.

 

[johnnybronco]

The thing that is puzzling me is that I get this horrible sound out of the t- case "sometimes". I took the cover off and saw there was a collar that was loose but didn't seem to have any function. And the place where the 2 gears on the inside mate up had a little play in between their teeth, but again I can't see why this would cause a problem, unless the play is going to get more and more as time goes on.

 

[adsm08]

why do you call it the dummy case???? is it true that ford put t-case on these things that really wasnt a t-case but a decoy???

It was a BW 13-59. Externally, it looks like a 13-50 but the front output is sealed off. Internally, its just a strait through shaft to the rear.

What he said is "yes".

The only explanation I can come up with is that the Bronco II drive shafts were kinda screwy and probably not the cheapest thing in the world to produce. It may have been easier/cheaper to put the dummy case on than to engineer a drive shaft that worked with a 2WD trans.

We usually recommend finding a manual t-case to you have the N and low range selections available for certain situation where they may be useful.

 

[brinker88]

Was there a lot of slack in the chain? Maybe it's stretched and you can only hear it "sometimes"

 

[johnnybronco]

I got no chain - it's a dummy. I just have an input shaft which takes the energy from the back of the tranny and an output which sends it to the drive shaft. When you take the front cover off there is a gear thingy connected to the cover that mates up with a gear thingy from the back - and htese 2 have a little play in them. I drove 700 miles through the hot desert and at the end of the trip it sounded horrible. Next day, up in the mountains and after a cool night it's not making any sound at all!

 

[Snoranger]

The only explanation I can come up with is that the Bronco II drive shafts were kinda screwy and probably not the cheapest thing in the world to produce. It may have been easier/cheaper to put the dummy case on than to engineer a drive shaft that worked with a 2WD trans.

Until '90 when Ford did away with the dummy case in the 2wd BII. They came up with idea to use a 2wd trans with a flanged, output and put the slip-joint in the driveshaft. Stupid me threw one of these, from an a4ld away years ago.



Useless BII fact.... The spindles on an '89-90 2wd BII are almost the same as the Rangers, except the tie rod ends go into the knuckles from the top-down, not the bottom-up like the 2wd Ranger.... That would be a good swap for a lifted 2wd Ranger to help with the steering geometry.