INFO Dana 35 TTB vs Wheel Bearings

[Shran]

Well how similar are second gen Ram D44 knuckles to TTB Ford knuckles?

Do the deal to a D44 knuckle swap but use Ram knuckles instead of Ford and then you have bolt on wheel bearings and are only custom shafts away from having something.

Looking at Rockauto quick it looks like the U-joint at the knuckle are the same size, just swap Ram outers onto the TTB shafts...

Brakes for the ram would bolt right onto the Ram knuckle, rotor wouldn't know any different, still has the 5x5.5 bolt pattern like a fullsize Ford.

Sounds too easy, I bet the knuckle has to be different.

That was kind of what I was getting at. I have no idea how similar they are.

The other thing I had in mind was using a unit bearing from a car with 5x4.5 bolt pattern (90's Chrysler maybe or Jeep D30/D44 parts - a TJ Rubicon D44 would have 5x4.5 bolt pattern but probably really expensive) that could be attached to the D35 knuckle and finding a rotor that would line up with the D35 caliper in its normal location. If you can get to that point, you still have to find a shaft and locking hub if you want one.

Wonder if you could use TJ Rubicon D44 knuckles on a D35.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

That was kind of what I was getting at. I have no idea how similar they are.

The other thing I had in mind was using a unit bearing from a car with 5x4.5 bolt pattern (90's Chrysler maybe or Jeep D30/D44 parts - a TJ Rubicon D44 would have 5x4.5 bolt pattern but probably really expensive) that could be attached to the D35 knuckle and finding a rotor that would line up with the D35 caliper in its normal location. If you can get to that point, you still have to find a shaft and locking hub if you want one.

Wonder if you could use TJ Rubicon D44 knuckles on a D35.

Initial googlage shows TTB D44 and solid D44 knuckles are different, I haven't found what is different.

At least with the old school solid axle stuff things swap around between brands.

I still like the idea of the Dodge knuckles the best. Wheel bearing and brakes will mount to that, Dodge outer stub shaft would mate with the D35 inner shafts and everything.

One big kind of eh thing with a sealed bearings on a D35 is that would make it live and the shafts would run full time.

 

[don4331]

Now I wonder what it would take to get a D30 or later D44 unit bearing setup onto a 35 TTB,,,

lol, I was actually looking at the reverse for my '99+ Ranger: How to put Dana 35 or 44 spindle in place of the Unit bearing so the axles didn't run all the time.

Note: For all intents and purposes the D30 and RBV D35 unit bearing are the same (there are minor differences, but the bolt pattern and the spline count are identical so you may use the alternative on the trail to get you to where you can get the correct part.)

Also note, all Dana 44s are do not have the same bearings: for reference: Dana 28 has Timken Set 45 for both inner and outer; Dana 35 has Timken Set 37 again same for inner and outer.

You have Dana 44s with Set 37 inner and Set 45 outer​

You have Dana 44s with JLM104910/LM104949 inners and Set 45 outer (3/4 ton axles with 8x6.5 pattern)​

I haven't come across Dana 44s with Set 37 inner and outer, but it might be possible..​

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Also Dana 30s have Set 47 inners and Set 45 outers...which would be an interesting subtle strength increase for the Dana 35 axle..

 

[SenorNoob]

I wonder if you could get crazy and do something like a 30/44 unit bearing with the splines milled out and use an old style d44 outer shaft with the heavy duty 35 locking hub...

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I wonder if you could get crazy and do something like a 30/44 unit bearing with the splines milled out and use an old style d44 outer shaft with the heavy duty 35 locking hub...

I thought about that, you would need a bearing/seals or something to support the shaft inside the bearing and you can't just swing into O'Reillys or whatever in the middle of nowhere and grab a new bearing.

 

[Shran]

Now that I'm reading a bit more about the Dodge stuff it looks like that is not going to work. They have the ball joints pressed into the C's on the housing as opposed to the knuckles. Bummer.

Edit - Jeep seems to be the same thing. Probably explains why it hasn't been done.