Coyote swap

[Robertmangrum.rm]

Ok as I got to work at 4:30 this morning there was a freight truck sitting in parking lot so I pulled up beside it. As I was unloading some mattresses the driver tells me he's from the Dallas area. Looks over said nice truck and proceeded to tell me there is a shop by his home doing coyote swaps in 19+ rangers. Also they are doing straight axle front conversions. Is this true? Not that I could ever afford it or wife would even let me haha bit I would love to see it? Now I know everything is bigger in Texas, including the lies haha. Not saying Texans are liers but when they do they do it big haha. I know a lot of you guys are from this area. Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks

 

[fastpakr]

If so, they need to spend some money advertising it. Nothing turns up on a quick search.

 

[Dirtman]

Coyotes is goes yip yip yip yip....

 

[19Walt93]

I think that would qualify as emissions tampering as far as the feds would be concerned.

 

[fastpakr]

Assuming they used a same year or newer Coyote with the matching emissions components, what would be the federal issue with it?

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Assuming they used a same year or newer Coyote with the matching emissions components, what would be the federal issue with it?

Technically tampering with any emissions component if they want to get fussy.

This day in age it is a good way for a shop to get raided.

 

[fastpakr]

If they're using the complete system from the Coyote, that's not tampering. Unless there's been a recent change that I'm unaware of?

 

[Robertmangrum.rm]

Now this info was given by a truck driver whom I do not know haha So I take it with a grain of salt. Was just interested. They say around here you can believe a out half what you hear, and about a quarter of that is true haha

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

If they're using the complete system from the Coyote, that's not tampering. Unless there's been a recent change that I'm unaware of?

If you remove functioning part A to install part B... removing part A is tampering. The rules say if you remove a part it has to be replaced with a part of identical design.

Some states like where Walt is actually care if the PCM belongs to the car, most states do not care about that.

 

[Uncle Gump]

Mason Daniel found an 08 Coyote swapped Ranger... yours for the low low price of 70K.

2008 Ford Ranger 5.0 Coyote Swapped 6 Speed Manual | The Ranger Station

 

[Dirtman]

If they're using the complete system from the Coyote, that's not tampering. Unless there's been a recent change that I'm unaware of?

It's a very very grey area and is usually illegal by federal standards but state laws are different and most don't follow federal laws. (Kinda like legal marijuana).

Basically If the coyote engine and system has been specially certified by the EPA it gets a pass to be used in other vehicles only if it can be verified that it produces the same or less emissions than the engine it's replacing. This is almost impossible...

 

[fastpakr]

This document is a little old, but it's currently on the EPA site so maybe it's still valid...

https://19january2017snapshot.epa.gov/sites/production/files/documents/engswitch_0.pdf

For light-duty vehicles, installation of a light-duty eng~ne into a different light-duty vehicle by any person would be considered tampering unless the resulting vehicle is identical (with regard to all emission related parts, engine design parameters, and engine calibrations) to a certified configuration of the same or newer model year as the vehicle chassis, or if there is a reasonable basis for knowing that emissions are not adversely affected as described in Memo 1A. The appropriate source for technical information regarding the certified configuration of a vehicle of a particular model year is the vehicle manufacturer.

Basically, as long as the configuration is EPA certified for a matching or newer year within the 'light-duty vehicles' category, you're good to go by federal standards.

State/local laws appear to be the real problem.

 

[Dirtman]

This document is a little old, but it's currently on the EPA site so maybe it's still valid...

https://19january2017snapshot.epa.gov/sites/production/files/documents/engswitch_0.pdf

Basically, as long as the configuration is EPA certified for a matching or newer year within the 'light-duty vehicles' category, you're good to go by federal standards.

State/local laws appear to be the real problem.

It's that "certified" part that's the problem. From my reading it doesn't just need to be "newer" to make it certified. For example if you replace a 2.3 ecoboost that is certified as producing X amount of emissions, you cannot replace it with a 5.0 coyote even if it is newer unless the 5.0 coyote is certified as producing the same X amount of emissions or less than the 2.3 ecoboost. Even though the coyote is certified for use in other similar vehicles you can never do anything that adds emissions from the stock configuration of the vehicle. If the EPA certified that the replacement engine is as good or better emissions wise, and of the same year or newer than you are free to swap it.

That's how I interpreted the insane ramblings of the law. But again, most states don't enforce this. In NJ for example you can do whatever the hell you want to a 1995 or earlier vehicle, no safety or emissions inspection. On a 1996 or newer you can put any engine in as long as the obd2 system is still intact and reads no emissions faults. They don't vin match, only inspect that the emissions system is functioning by what the computer tells it. For example you couldn't put a carbed 302 in a 2010 ranger, but you could put a stock 1996 5.0 in it as long as all emissions systems are there and functional. This would not be federally legal, but NJ will give it an inspection sticker since they don't enforce federal law. Do the same thing in California and they will probably throw you in jail...

On the other hand reading some of the federal laws makes it seem like you can do NOTHING to modify the engine or emissions systems from the way they rolled off the assembly line even if you actually improve the emissions. For example putting fuel injection on a carbureted vehicle is illegal?

Bottom line it's all very confusing...