Clutch problem

[zboyd4837]

Soo this thing has me stumped and before i go pulling the trans out again, i thought id ask on here...so i have a 2000 model Ranger 2wd 2.5 5 speed...

The problems started when i had a by passing master cycle. So while i was into the whole master cycle deal. I decided that i might as well changed the clutch. So I have everything new... Master cycle, hoses, hose from the master cycle to the slave, new pressure plate, new slave and throw out bearing, piolet bearing and all new tranny fluid.. Any part that is involved is new..

OK this is what the trucks doing now... Ive bled all the air out of the system and have a very very good petal.. When i started the truck it had a bad squealing so I turned it back off and bled the clutch once more.. So i had the truck Jacked up in the rear with the truck in first gear clutch pushed in the wheels are spilling a light squealing... with the clutch still pushed in the wheels still spinning and i still cant change between the gears... i took the inspection plate off and had someone push the clutch in and its in gauging like it should or from the looks of it anyways...Can someone please help me???

 

[RonD]

Welcome to TRS

So with engine off you can shift gears OK?
If so shifter got put back in correctly

Trans needs to be in Neutral before installing shifter arm, or you will be locked in a gear and can't shift
Remove shifter arm and look down inside trans, you will see 3 slots, one on each shift rail, they need to be centered, use a screwdriver to push or pull them so they are centered, trans should now be in Neutral
Last picture here shows 2 of the 3 slots aligned in the center: http://www.therangerstation.com/how...-case-driveshaft/shifter-bushing-replacement/

If that's not the problem, then you got a bad pilot bearing or throwout, it happens

With engine running, bad pilot bearing will usually only make a noise when clutch pedal is pushed in
Bad Throwout bearing can make noise with pedal down or up.

 

[zboyd4837]

So in other words i need to replace the pilot bearing/ slave cycle again?

 

[RonD]

Yes, if you can shift transmission engine off, then you probably got a bad pilot bearing or throwout bearing.

Throwout bearing comes attached to new slave but can be removed and replaced without buying a new slave, but if new slaves throwout bearing was bad then............I would suspect manufacturing process of the slave as well

Rangers, or any vehicle that uses internal clutch slave cylinders, must also use a Self Adjusting Pressure Plate
A SAC, self adjusting clutch.
These pressure plates will have 3 or 4 springs on the back side, that non-self adjusting won't have
These springs will be fully compressed when new, as the clutch disc wears down the springs push the pressure plate closer to the flywheel so it self adjusts to clutch disc thickness.

If you use a non-self adjusting pressure plate then it will be very hard to disengage with new clutch disc, because it is rubbing flywheel, so hard to shift, then after a few weeks of rubbing disc will wear down and you will have a few years of OK shifting, then as disc gets thinner it will start to slip.
All during this time the clutch pedal level will change where you feel it engage and disengage, it will start off very low, hard to disengage, then slowly move up until its at the top and starts to slip even with foot off the pedal

If you ended up putting in a non-self adjusting pressure plate then squealing noise could just be clutch disc wearing down.

 

[tomw]

zboyd:When i started the truck it had a bad squealing so I turned it back off and bled the clutch once more.. So i had the truck Jacked up in the rear with the truck in first gear clutch pushed in the wheels are spilling a light squealing.

I do not understand 'spilling' ...

You may get some brake squeak with the wheels rotating. The shoes may have light contact which is normal, or the pads have a slight sliding noise.
If you have squeal when pushing in the pedal, or when NOT pushing in the pedal, that is not normal.
If you misaligned the clutch, and the input shaft did not slide into place properly, you may be crushing your input shaft bearing, or pushing the clutch plate against the pressure plate.
If your clutch does not release, and the movement you stated you saw did not release it, then I would be taking it apart to insure I had it properly installed.
You did use the alignment dowel/tool to center the clutch disk before tightening the pressure plate bolts, right?
If you can't get into gear with the engine running, you are not releasing the clutch. Needs to come apart, especially if you are sure the master/slave are working properly.
If you can shift into all the gears, engine off, then the linkage is likely re-assembled properly.
Who determined what parts were ordered and did they get the proper parts? Did you compare the new parts to the original, old parts? They should come close at least.
tom