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Ranger850

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So I plan on swapping to the white gauges. I have the whole cluster and I think all I use is the "skin". Is there a tech article on doing this swap? I just used the "Overhead Console/Lighted Mirrors" article to install my overhead console, and it was SO easy with this info. I know that some cluster covers pop off, while others have glue/epoxy holding it together. Is this info already here somewhere? I cant seem to find it. A point in the right direction would help....Or I can just wing it?
 
Yes it is. thank you, sir. I may try to document my attempt, so maybe, the info will be here on TRS.
 
As I recall, the hardest parts are pulling the speedometer needle the first time and getting it lined up correctly the second time so it's still accurate. Adjusting the odometer itself wasn't that bad.
 
I just printed it, big mistake. Looking for a more printer friendly version...
 
I have a copy of the thread in PDF form that's about ten reasonable pages. Want that?
 
 
yes please, and thank you
 
The one I printed has advertisements in code so it takes a lot of space/ink, but it also gave me the comments and questions, maybe I can use that somewhere down the line...
@fastpakr the PDF is so much neater, thanks again
 
The link to the PDF is above. Feel free to use that as needed. The rest of the discussion was mostly about issues with the temp gauge that not many people ran into.
 
I swapped the entire cluster. Much easier in my opinion. To roll back the odometer to match the one in my truck, I just inserted a very thin butter knife or pocket knife between the number rollers, pried them over very gently, and rolled them one by one. No damage to them at all and the cluster is still working perfectly over 100,000 miles later..
 
I swapped the entire cluster. Much easier in my opinion. To roll back the odometer to match the one in my truck, I just inserted a very thin butter knife or pocket knife between the number rollers, pried them over very gently, and rolled them one by one. No damage to them at all and the cluster is still working perfectly over 100,000 miles later..
Same here (and that's what's in the instructions I shared).
 
I thought there was something about " the cluster has to match the truck-PATS" or something???
 
At some point that became an issue, but I think it's more like 2003. If you search through RonD's older posts you'll probably find the exact year.
 
2004 based on this post.

RonD said:
In 2004 and up the instrument cluster is also part of PATS

Ford started using HEC(hybrid electronic clusters) in most models in mid-2000's
This prevented the cluster swapping, to put in lower mile odometers, that was popular with "used car" salesmen
Odometer number is stored in both HEC and PCM and they must match or no start

Surprises me that the PCM reprogramming didn't bother the HEC, HEC and PCM are "married" at the factory, so one will not work without the other
But if programmer left serial number and odometer the same then maybe thats OK and all it really needs

HEC test info here: http://www.carlogic.org/bg/data/Ford HEC dealer mode.pdf
 

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