Can someone tell me?

[GreatWhite]

Why Ford deprives us Americans to the newer diesel rangers? South America is intelligent and puts a motor inside the ford ranger that it could get it out of any situation you could put it in (of course if you also had 4X4). Not to mention so much better power and acceleration plus the gas mileage you would get? We have these stupid conservative queers that go out and buy there Toyota and Honda tin can hybrids but thats not even the alternative for better gas mileage its the diesels. I see the diesels even better for the planet than a Prius(veggie oil).

Ford! -

 

[Gotta_gofast]

We all agree with you... but if Ford offered a Diesel in thier Rangers then it would be a competitor for the F150. Besides, a lot of americans are very picky and would whine because of the noise a diesel emits and the smell of it.

 

[GreatWhite]

good I' am glad people think there are loud and smelly but thats whats beautiful about them first thing I would do is put stacks on mine

 

[Gotta_gofast]

lol, I agree. Diesel's don't bother me a bit. And its sad that those are two of the biggest reasons why small diesels don't sell as well in the U.S. as they do in other countries. I would love a Duratorq in a 4x4 Ranger.

 

[Original_Ranger84]

Diesel is kinda going down hill from what I hear though, I was talking with my dads friend who works for BP on the slope and he says that the reason diesel has gotten Higher then gas is because they are making it "low sulfer" which apparently is very hard to do (don't know) and apparently the sulfer in the diesels accounts for over 25% of their power and better mileage, because the fuel doesn't burn as hot.

But I would love to see some diesel rangers! I would even get a diesel f150 or f250 or f350! But with the ranger you get all the extra power/torque/MPG's in a small package, it just makes sense.

 

[svtranger04]

i dont see how sulfur content enables the mix to burn "hotter"

"The refining process that removes the sulfur also reduces the aromatic content and density of the fuel, resulting in a minor decrease in the energy content, by about 1%. This decrease in energy content may result in slightly reduced peak power and fuel economy." - wikipedia


but there are/ were some serious problems with injectors when the switch was
made to low sulfur fuel. Some designs use fuel to lube the injectors and or cool them, the fuel that is used to cool is usually returned to the tank. Evidently the higher sulfur fuel provides better lube than the low sulfur stuff.

"Sulfur is not a lubricant in of itself, but it can combine with the nickel content in many metal alloys to form a low melting point eutectic alloy that can increase lubricity. The process used to reduce the sulfur also reduces the fuel's lubricating properties. Lubricity is a measure of the fuel's ability to lubricate and protect the various parts of the engine's fuel injection system from wear. The processing required to reduce sulfur to 15 ppm also removes naturally-occurring lubricity agents in diesel fuel. To manage this change ASTM International (formerly the American Society for Testing and Materials) adopted the lubricity specification defined in ASTM D975 for all diesel fuels and this standard went into effect January 1, 2005.[8]" - wickipedia

 

[snake]

I don't know why they haven't done it in the recent past, but you wouldn't want one now- the stupid EPA's unrealistic emmisions requirements would make it a POS bigtime. Our big trucks at work have $7,000. worth of emmisions on them, SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS above and beyond the price of the truck...

The trucks are being called "air scrubbers" because the EPA wants the particulates that come from the stack to be CLEANER than what went into the air filter.

My '99 model I had got 7 MPG working hard or 8 if you took it easy pulling 80,000 lbs. The '04 I have now gets 6.5 pulling an empty because of the EGR they put on them that year. The truck has 730,000 miles, and the only problems I have had out of the engine? Five (count 'em, FIVE) EGR valves and an EGR cooler. The valves cost $500 apeice without labor to replace. I have no idea what the cooler cost but it wasn't free.

The new ones with the 7K of emmisions stuff has a catalytic converter with a soot incinerator. Uses fuel to burn the soot out every so often. The first truck to get 15,000 miles on it used 92 gallons of fuel in the incinerator- 92 gallons of fuel that didn't propel the truck one damn inch. With all that crap you KNOW that check engine light is going to be on all the damn time. They preach MPG and no idle time, then pull this crap. It takes 45 minutes at idle to complete a burn cycle!

Yeah, come on, EPA- I'm bent over, come dry hump me some more... %&$*#@!! liberals...

 

[shadetree]

Cost to produce, and sales volume, plus all that entails.shady

 

[Mac]

This country has had low sulfur diesel fuel for years, the big switch is to the ultra low sulfur that has been used in Europe for quite a while now. It comes down to the lower emmissions using that fuel. There was a big demand to buy new big rigs before the new engine rules went into effect in 2007. I think there is/was a diesel running in F1 and did good. Car companies just slow to react as usual.
Dave

 

[Original_Ranger84]

i dont see how sulfur content enables the mix to burn "hotter"

"The refining process that removes the sulfur also reduces the aromatic content and density of the fuel, resulting in a minor decrease in the energy content, by about 1%. This decrease in energy content may result in slightly reduced peak power and fuel economy."

Yeah but it would explain why I filled up my diesel with regular diesel (aka additives and stuff to put the kick back in) and got like 17mpgs hauling a full bed at 65, but when I filled up and came back (ultra low sulfer fuel) going a constant 55 with nothing I only got 14 mpgs.... but the muffler did rust off?

 

[GreatWhite]

So would the only way to get a newer Ranger diesel is going to South America and buying it/transporting it to America and then registering it? I mean do diesels ever have to go through a smog check? What would be the deal with the emissions?

 

[BigJohn76]

the sound and smell are the best parts of a diesel. my buddies all moded theirs and get great mileage and power. the Cummins can pull a 30' stock trailer loaded with fat cattle 60 miles there and 60 miles back home empty getting 20 mpg. the d-max is a little less than that and they have to run low sulfur because its all we have here. the truckers i talk to hate it because it ruins the fuel mileage. even worse than low sulfur is the soy biodiesel. that shit is completely worthless and gels up before water even freezes. (exageration)

 

[BigJohn76]

Cost to produce, and sales volume, plus all that entails.shady

it takes something like 3 gallons of diesel to produce one gallon of corn shit. and that is supposed to cure the energy crisis? this doesnt make sense to me. even the farmers around here say ethanol is shit. the only reason they like it is because they pay more for the grain than the elevators. the guys that build the plants wont even run it in their cars because they know it sucks. the only reason i run it is because its cheaper. diesel is the answer, not ethanol.

 

[rjppunk]

I was looking at the VW Polo Bluemotion which is only availible in europe. It gets 76 mpg has less emmisions than a prius and costs 23,000 which is like 2k more than a prius. Makes me want one of those turbo diesel rangers they have in the UK

 

[JohnnyO]

Simple. It is difficult to get small diesels to pass U.S. emissions standards.