bronco lift coils in a ranger

[MaGiKaLsHoTs]

i read somehwere and i cant remember where but i read that if i was to get eb bronco lift coils and put them on a ranger they will likft it more than how much the coils lift the eb bronco.. is that true?

and if anyone knows how much the difference is with 5 1/2 eb bronco coils is on a rangeR?

 

[ThatGuy]

Way too much. There is a pic on here of a B2 with 3.5" EB lift coils on the front and a 4 or 6 inch lift on the rear. The front is at least 4" higher.
I have a 6" lift on mine and stock EB coils to put on it. With the coils plus the bottom retainer the stock EB coils are the same length as my lift springs laying on the bench. I don't know how much they will compress but I'm thinking the EB front should compare to my explorer. When I put them on I'll let you know how it sits.

 

[ThatGuy]

I found the pic I was speaking of. It's in the tech library under D44 swap into a B2.
It has 3.5" EB lift coils in front with a 4" lift in the rear. Front sits exactly 4" higher than the rear. This is with a SAS so it may differ on a TTB.

 

[4x4junkie]

Yeah the TTB puts about 1.5× the pressure on the coil due to the beams acting as levers, so they will compress more.

What you would need to find out is what the free length of the coil is, and it's pressure rating in pounds per inch (PPI). then you can figure out if it's the correct coil for your setup.

On a stock suspension, the coils sit at 10.5" to 11" compressed, so for a 4" lift, you would add that to it (14.5-15" compressed). If your truck should weigh 2100lbs over the front axle, each coil will then be supporting 1575lbs (2100 ÷ 2 × 1.5). You would need right about a 20" long coil rated at 300PPI to work on that truck with a 4" lift.

 

[CopyKat]

I have WH 5.5" coils and my coils sit at about 17" loaded.

 

[MaGiKaLsHoTs]

ok 4x4 junkie that just confused the shit outa me lol... i have eb bronco coils and their for a 6" lift.. and im putting a d44 under my truck so no ttb.. i dont know i was reading somthing before about this and i just cant find it again.. i think it might have been in one of those million under construction threads

but ill measure my coilds tomorrow... u said the stock eb coils are 10.5-11" compressed? do u know how much not compressed?

 

[wahlstrom1]

I've got 7" skyjacker EB coils (which are the same P/N as a 6" fullsize coil, softride version) and mine sit around 19" loaded around 22-23" loose, with a 3000lb front axle weight.

 

[MaGiKaLsHoTs]

I've got 7" skyjacker EB coils (which are the same P/N as a 6" fullsize coil, softride version) and mine sit around 19" loaded around 22-23" loose, with a 3000lb front axle weight.

so ur 7" eb coils with no flex just sitting on flat ground are 17.5"s, like the whole coil? and with no weight as in ur flexing they are 20"? alright... so basically the STOCK eb coils are around 10" tall? so would i be able to add the difference to 10" on mine and really figure out what size they are?.. cause right now theyre sitting in my basement "loose"

thanks
alex

 

[wahlstrom1]

Sorry, I went and measured to make sure and they are sitting at 19" exactly. I grabbed the measurements from another thread I posted in and must have been for my loaner coils.

 

[ThatGuy]

These are stock EB coils (blue) next to 4" Skyjacker lift coils for a ranger (red).
The 4" coils are maybe 1/4" taller than the stock EB coils.

When used with the lower retainers I made that bolt onto the TTB, the stock EB coils are about 3/4" taller than my 6" lift springs.

 

[4x4junkie]

ok 4x4 junkie that just confused the shit outa me lol... i have eb bronco coils and their for a 6" lift.. and im putting a d44 under my truck so no ttb.. i dont know i was reading somthing before about this and i just cant find it again.. i think it might have been in one of those million under construction threads

but ill measure my coilds tomorrow... u said the stock eb coils are 10.5-11" compressed? do u know how much not compressed?

Oh, you're swapping to a straightaxle D44 (you didn't mention this)... this probably should've been put in the Xtreme Suspensions section then.

Most what I said would still be applicable, except for the 1.5× thing, as there are obviously no TTB beams to act as levers on a straight axle, so no conversion is needed then

Typically EB coils will lift a RBV (using a straight axle) about 2-3" more than what the coil is specified for the EB (so if you got 6" lift EB coils, you'll wind up with 8-9" lift on your Ranger (a bit much IMO).

Going from ThatGuy's post (and knowing that a Skyjacker 4" TTB coil is 17" free-length), it looks like a stock EB coil would then be 16.75" free-length.

 

[ThatGuy]

Oh sorry, I thought we were talking about TTB also.
Reference the B2 pic then, 3.5" lift coil netted approximately 8" of lift.

 

[MaGiKaLsHoTs]

Typically EB coils will lift a RBV (using a straight axle) about 2-3" more than what the coil is specified for the EB (so if you got 6" lift EB coils, you'll wind up with 8-9" lift on your Ranger (a bit much IMO).

this is all i needed to know so thanks a bunch guys sorry for not specifying im swaping in a d44, thats thatguy for all the info man and 4x4junkie