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Broken 7.5 with a 2.3l! Maybe 8.8 swap?


Hagan

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I just bought an '86 Ranger last week. It is a standard cab 4wd shortbed with a 2.3l and a 5spd. I bought the truck and it was abused! Not cosmetically but maintenance and everything else. I just noticed today that the axle may be broken. I popped the clutch in some gravel and it spun one of the rear tires...ok next step to see if it can do it on pavement! Wrong...I had it on pavement and popped the clutch and click, click, click, click, click, click (this was loud and fast clicking) from the rear axle. I'm assuming the gears are all messed up! So, is it possible for the ring and pinion to be broken? I am thinking I am just going to swap in an 8.8 with disc brakes...good idea?
 
With the 8.8 swap I was just worried about the 3" difference between the stock 7.5 and the Explorer 8.8.
 
I just bought an '86 Ranger last week. It is a standard cab 4wd shortbed with a 2.3l and a 5spd. I bought the truck and it was abused! Not cosmetically but maintenance and everything else. I just noticed today that the axle may be broken. I popped the clutch in some gravel and it spun one of the rear tires...ok next step to see if it can do it on pavement! Wrong...I had it on pavement and popped the clutch and click, click, click, click, click, click (this was loud and fast clicking) from the rear axle. I'm assuming the gears are all messed up! So, is it possible for the ring and pinion to be broken? I am thinking I am just going to swap in an 8.8 with disc brakes...good idea?

Spider gears are real common to blow on the 7.5". There are some with welded 7.5" that have put up with a ton of abuse from much larger engines.

With the 8.8 swap I was just worried about the 3" difference between the stock 7.5 and the Explorer 8.8.

negligible.

If you're really, really worried about stance, stick a 1.5" block of wood behind the rims, AKA a block of 2x4. (DON'T DRIVE IT - I do have to put the disclaimer in) and see if it looks ok still.
 
Actually now that I'm thinking about it you said broken spider gears are common? This means I can rip out the spiders and just install a lock-right/aussie and call it a day?:)

OR...

Since I'm NEVER going to have a tire bigger than probably 31's on this truck and swapping in another 7.5 axle seems like an 'ok' idea. But I think finding a Ranger 8.8 would be the best. I already found an axle with a lock-right for $100 but it has 3.08 gears:(

This is all assuming the 8.8 Ranger axle has the same shock/spring perch locations!
 
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Ok awesome! Just what i was looking for. And i'm looking at axles and I see they are around the $200-$300 range with 4.10's and I found two with drum and 3.08 gears. So I spend $80 on an axle then regear is it worth it? Or just spend the cash on an axle with 4.10's?

And, stupid question...but why go with disc's?

They've used drum brakes since the beginning of the automobile and still use them today. Drum brakes are just fine, they do have drawbacks like ease of maintenance (the lack there of), and number of parts. That and braking in reverse, actually if you don't apply the brakes in reverse once in a while they'll stop working. That's how they self adjust. Technically they work better than disks going foreward.

Ratios: Unless you have the tiniest of tires go with 4.10 and don't look back. the 4 bangers in these like to rev, so let them. The analogy I like to use is this. Look at it in terms of power cycles:

a V8 engine traveling at 70 MPH turning 1,500 RPM, not too bad no?. That equates to a 4 cylinder turning 3,000 RPM at 70MPH (half as many cylinders needing to turn twice as fast to get the same amount of power cycles). Letting the sucker rev doesn't sound so bad now does it?

*edit: oh, and if you change your gear ratio be sure to get the speedometer checked out, it'll be off.

Actually now that I'm thinking about it you said broken spider gears are common? This means I can rip out the spiders and just install a lock-right/aussie and call it a day?:)

You might, depends if any of the chunks got into the ring gear and trashed that, or made their way into the oil galleys for oiling the pinion bearings. Unless you're taking the thing entirely apart, it is actually much easier just get another axle. Especially if you depend on the truck as your DD.

Last I knew, there are no Aussies for a 7.5".
 
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Isn't an aussie the exact same as a lock-right? I had an aussie locker in my toyota and it was identical to a lock-right.

Anyway, I'm really considering going with a Ranger axle. I don't NEED an 8.8 because i don't have time and money to get into hard core wheeling I just want something a little stronger. I don't have a welder either so there is another problem.
 
Im running 32 inch M/T's on my 7.5 and she is olding up fine. I will say that you may not be the first to do this to your truck and it decided to go out on you.

Oh and ya Im on my second 7.5. The original one too blew up with a 2.3 but the truck was never abused when my dad had it. We did haul alot of dirt in the bed that year though (and did go over the weight limit) and that is what may have caused the original one to give up. But my friend does have a ranger too that has the 2.3 DOHC and can burn his wheels all day (drag slicks and ya they are wide) and has not had a problem yet.
 
Oh wow yeah I never had a problem with my 2wd Ranger. I think its a decent axle though and I'm not bashing them. I'm considering going with a 28 spline Ranger 8.8 axle. I found one with an aussie locker and 3.08 gears (I would regear though) for $100!

Is a Ranger 8.8 a direct swap???
 
Isn't an aussie the exact same as a lock-right? I had an aussie locker in my toyota and it was identical to a lock-right.

Anyway, I'm really considering going with a Ranger axle. I don't NEED an 8.8 because i don't have time and money to get into hard core wheeling I just want something a little stronger. I don't have a welder either so there is another problem.

It's a similar style, but they're 2 completely separate companies. Aussie often being regarded as being a little more refined. Either will accomplish the same goal.
 
Oh wow yeah I never had a problem with my 2wd Ranger. I think its a decent axle though and I'm not bashing them. I'm considering going with a 28 spline Ranger 8.8 axle. I found one with an aussie locker and 3.08 gears (I would regear though) for $100!

Is a Ranger 8.8 a direct swap???

Yes. There might be some flange issues, but it's been covered many times before. Search around for u-joint differences or flange bolt pattern differences.

Either way there is 2 methods:

1) redrill the axle flange and use your existing driveshaft flange and u-joint.

2) Use the matching axle-flange/driveshaft flange and get the conversion u-joint.

And that's only IF they don't match.
 
Yes. There might be some flange issues, but it's been covered many times before. Search around for u-joint differences or flange bolt pattern differences.

Either way there is 2 methods:

1) redrill the axle flange and use your existing driveshaft flange and u-joint.

2) Use the matching axle-flange/driveshaft flange and get the conversion u-joint.

And that's only IF they don't match.

Yeah the flange is no big deal I was more worried about spring and shock mounting locations. I know they are both SOA but I wasn't sure if they were widened or moved from the 92 (and later) Rangers with narrower axles. Its 1.5" wider so you never know. I know they interchanged the 7.5/8.8 over the years and just want to be certain. Drive-shaft isn't an issue that has been covers 20590808038690390690 times!:D

Again....THANKS!!!!!
 
I just took off the diff cover and there are teeth marks on the housing that holds the the spider gears in. Kinda weird...maybe the pinion snapped???

Update: Removed the driveshaft and inspected the slip-yoke (i guess thats whats its called) and was fine. I then inspected the gear oil and noticed there are a lot of small metal shavings in the axle. And one of the bolts on the carrier holding the spider gears on (on the passenger side) has been smacked hard and deformed badly. Not sure where to go at this point???

I forgot to mention my truck still drives its just when I try to go fast or pop the clutch it makes a lot of noise.
 
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I would just replace the rear end before it does break on you when you need it.
 
Thats what i'm thinking. I'm just going to buy that cheap axle and have someone set up some gears for me. So i'll have $300 into an axle total...and thats about the price of the lock-right locker new!
 
It sounds like the pinion nut at the flange has came loose and let the pinion move around sliding in and out durring hard acceleration and that is where you hear the noise along with the mess on the diff carrier.
I say buy the 8.8 have it regeared and call it a day. There is no difference between the two as far as spring perches and shock mounts.
 

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