battery charges... weighing in my hands

[lil_Blue_Ford]

I'd say to press charges to the fullest.



It's not what I would have ended up doing though....

He would have had a free trip to the hospital if he would have kicked in my door and assaulted me. I gave up taking crap from people years ago, despite being a Christian.

 

[AllanD]

I'd make him pay for the damages THEN break BOTH of his knees, just in case the surgeons managed to
correct whatever I did to one of them...

If he gets away with it all and goes onto the pros by some miracle you'll be seeing him on the news,
because of all the shit he's done in the past and gotten away with has only taught him that he CAN
get away with shit.

there was a guy in Highscool that gave me crap and I just calmly explained to him in provate that
after I broke his arm and twisted the broken pieces around for as long as it amused me to do so
he could kiss his baseball scolarship goodbye and that it was probably best for both of us if we
made it a practice to ignore each other for the last four months of our senior year.

All through school I was always the first target for people to pick on it (mostly) abrubtly ended
when I came back to school for my Junior year when I cam back in september 6" taller and 50lbs
heavier... and made it a practice to fight back with a certain ruthless abandon. and when I hit
people things tended to break.

I don't like bullies.

If someone kicked in my door? they'd leave in an ambulance if not a coroners wagon.

If someone kicked in my door and said they wanted to kill me?
they'd DAMN SURE better be prepared to do it quickly to keep me from finishing first.

"Christian restraint" has NOTHING to do with it.

If someone intends to kill you, or merely claims to intend to kill you there
is no obligation whatsoever for you to hold back because when you are
dead you have no "other cheek" to turn.

So don't take that Jesus quote out of context unless you want to die
AND make me think you are stupid.

Nail his nuts to the courthouse door or you'll only be teaching him that he can
either get away with shit OR buy his way out of it and you really don't want
him learning (or relearning) either lesson.

And even if he doen't bother you in the future you are just making hims someone else's problem.

Let a bully get away with things and they just get worse.

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[Ranger Dave (B25)]

or do i not press charges? i'm really stuck on what do i do as a christian too....

So what does that have to do with it? He broke the law. Would it be more Christian to let him continue to break the law? Hurt someone? Kill someone?

Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and give unto the Lord what is his.

Probably quoted wrong, but you should get the point.

 

[dasfinc]

Charge him and tell him that if he confesses to the truck stuff you'll drop the assault charge, then get him to pay for fixing your truck!

DO NOT do that.

I did this once, and what ended up happening is the person didn't pay me. I then Pressed charges and the state declined to take the case (Which they can do) and told me to take him to small claims court despite him admitting guilt to the cops.

RIDE HIS ASS, press charges.

 

[wakingtowinter]

Going to go against the grain here and suggest that you NOT proceed with the charges. I understand that this person is a piece of shit and needs to pay for what he has done and do whatever you feel is necessary to make amends, since you are the victim in this context. His guilt is apparently undeniable.

HOWEVER - the judicial system is completely twisted and anybody who has been in court (as a defendant or as an observer), anyone who has a heart, can see that it is NOT helping people - neither defendants nor victims. I personally know a couple very good people who have made mistakes in the past that have ruined their lives. My neighbor for one, who is a wonderful person and has helped me hundreds of times when I need to borrow a special tool or need advice on how to fix something (he is a fellow car freak and ex-helicopter mechanic) made a mistake several years ago that has shifted his life completely.

However messed up this person is, they will not be helped or rehabilitated in any way by spending time in jail or court. Sadly jail does not help people learn how to improve themselves. Most of the time it makes them even worse. Prisons are more interested in exploiting prisoners for labor than in improving them.

Just ask yourself what you want from this guy. Do you really want to force himself into a slave class of folks who will never be able to get a job? I would talk to him and tell him that you will press charges UNLESS he pays you whatever restitution you think is appropriate for the damages. Explain to him that you are doing him a MASSIVE favor by dropping the charges. If it makes you feel better to beat his ass in private then do it, by all means. I probably would. But if you press charges, his life will be ruined forever.

By the way, Jesus preaches love and forgiveness, in case any of you never read the Bible...

 

[Shran]

However messed up this person is, they will not be helped or rehabilitated in any way by spending time in jail or court. Sadly jail does not help people learn how to improve themselves. Most of the time it makes them even worse. Prisons are more interested in exploiting prisoners for labor than in improving them.

This guy assaulted someone, stole things, vandalized a car and threatened to kill the OP. He needs to go sit in jail and think about common sense and why he is there before he is allowed back into society. The whole point of prison is to make people realize that their stupid actions not only changed their life but someone else's as well... plus removing someone who is obviously dangerous from society so he can't do any more damage!

Not going to jail has always been a pretty good motivator for me not to steal, vandalize, and threaten to kill people...

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Press charges.

I don't want to watch a story about you on the news.

 

[Ranger Sport Honduras]

i thought this was about your trucks battery lmao

anyway keep the charges, if u let it go he will think hes untouchable, and he will cause more damage until
a) gets arrested and in jail for a good time
b) shot in the ass

 

[wakingtowinter]

Not going to jail has always been a pretty good motivator for me not to steal, vandalize, and threaten to kill people...

Not really the right motivation though is it? Not saying you'd be out knocking over banks if there weren't police, I'm just saying people should do things because they know it's right, not because they're scared of the consequences of doing the thing they really do want to do. Anyway, I don't really want to get into a debate on this. I just come here because I like Rangers and arguing about politics on the internet is absurdly low on my priority list. In any event, hope you stay safe one way or the other, OP. And I hope the other guy learns to get his life back on track.

 

[MountainMike]

the thing that makes me want to press charges is he made a conscience effort TWICE to come and assault me... he could have stopped, and he didn't. "fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me"...

Yep, nail him. Too often people like get that a free ride cause no one wants to press charges, and it only gives them a sense of invincibility. If it were me, I'd stick every charge I could to him, because as you mentioned he made two deliberate attempts to come after you, and trashed your truck.

That & that. Stop this guy now before it gets worse. If you ruin his future it is a lesson for being what he is now. That's why the system does what it does, do wrong and it will haunt you.

 

[bwright1818]

One question....maybe I skimmed a little....WHY did he want to assault you in the first place? Obviously the guy is a head case and may be on steroids, among other things. But what started it?

 

[baxtej44]

By the way, Jesus preaches love and forgiveness, in case any of you never read the Bible...

at least somebody has the sensitivity, even if they are not christian, to understand why i am bringing my religion into this. i understand we have a judicial system for a reason, but for me, as i came out of this uninjured... maybe some of you just don't understand, and i'm not ragging on you for your opinions, but some of them are rather insensitive in my opinion. if i had gotten hurt, you know for sure i'd be pressing charges. and i have to take the whole truck idea out of it, because he can't be charged for it. it could have been someone just tied to the situation also... one of his friends mad that he ended up arrested. you know? but since i cant prove it was him, i need to take that out of the situation. i thank you all for your opinions in the end anyway.

he talked with the dean and our head coach and it seems like neither are going to kick him out of the school or the football program... i'm pressing charges if he does not get kicked out of the school, he needs some sort of punishment.

One question....maybe I skimmed a little....WHY did he want to assault you in the first place? Obviously the guy is a head case and may be on steroids, among other things. But what started it?

this was all started over because he stole two of my buddies beers and came bragging to me about it, and he even knew i was buddies with the guy too, so that was the bad mistake that started the whole thing.



oh and for all of you who claim you would have killed him, i wasn't in extreme danger, i'm about 5'11" and 275 pounds lineman, we are both playing football right now. he's taller than me, but no where near as strong or as heavy as I am, i knew i wasn't in any immediate danger, even if something turned wrong, even if he had some extra liquid courage, also with the second assault, there was me and 3 other linemen, over 1000 pounds against him.. i knew for sure nothing was going to happen that time....i would have brought him down to the ground and it would have been over had i needed to.

 

[KYRangerDude]

need help.



okay so there was a guy talkin trash on my friend stealing some of his stuff and i tell my friend what i know.


or do i not press charges? i'm really stuck on what do i do as a christian too....

the thing that makes me want to press charges is he made a conscience effort TWICE to come and assault me... he could have stopped, and he didn't. "fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me"...

i just really don't know i guess

*********************************************************While I'm not condoning his actions at all...this was started by you. The Christian thing to have done....not to have went to your buddy and telling him what you knew. Especially over 2 beers! For less than $5 this is what's happened? Now that it's where it's at....the Christian thing would be to go to him and apologize for your action. If he's an unbeliever he will either accept it and return the apology or not. You've done your part. If the guy was drunk and/or on something, even more reason not to have done what you did. Even though he did it twice shouldn't be the reasoning for wanting to press charges. He was allegedly inebriated and until you called the cops, he could have come back numerous times. You can't reason with someone in that condition. Not knowing the full details...perhaps he and your friend were already at odds over something else? Perhaps he was attempting to be "buddies" with you and when you ratted him out, it pissed him off. Who knows? Whatever the reasoning....go to him sober and apologize. Having been in college myself and totally understanding "dorm" life and being more than broke...the damage to your truck is probably a big deal. It would have been for me at least. Why did you run to your buddy? Surely you knew some confrontation would happen? Was that the reasoning? Perhaps you didn't/don't like the guy before this happened? There are too many variables and unknowns to accurately guess why things happened the way they did....but I do know the Christian thing would be to apologize and go your separate ways. Being on the same team could be awkward...especially if he doesn't accept your sincere apology. Being a Christian is much more than seeking retribution for a wrong done to you, it's being Christ Like...and who knows...at some point you and this guy may become good friends and laugh at this looking back. I know I went through what I thought was pure hell in school...but now looking back, I actually laugh at it. Would I continue to press charges? Probably not, I would want something on record, either at the school or courthouse about what happened in case he doesn't let it die with your apology. If he starts it again after the apology....of course defend yourself. I"ll probably catch a lot of flack on here for this...but hey...you asked and I gave my opinion like everyone else on here. Times have changed since I was in the dorm...different world for sure. But one thing hasn't changed: being/doing the Christian thing.

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

oh and for all of you who claim you would have killed him, i wasn't in extreme danger, i'm about 5'11" and 275 pounds lineman, we are both playing football right now. he's taller than me, but no where near as strong or as heavy as I am, i knew i wasn't in any immediate danger, even if something turned wrong, even if he had some extra liquid courage, also with the second assault, there was me and 3 other linemen, over 1000 pounds against him.. i knew for sure nothing was going to happen that time....i would have brought him down to the ground and it would have been over had i needed to.

I'd like to be clear and say that I never said I'd kill anyone.

Kicking in my door is, however, something that you better have a real good reason for doing (IE, my house is on fire) if you don't want to get say, a baseball bat upside the head. Actually, if I'm asleep and you kick in my door even for a good reason you might get smacked upside the head just out of reflex.

What can I say, I'm not the nicest person when my sleep is disturbed. I spent over a year getting less than 3 hours of sleep a night and it took several years to get myself back to a normal sleep cycle. If you've ever gone through something like that, you probably know how precious sleep is.

 

[adsm08]

I'd like to be clear and say that I never said I'd kill anyone.

Kicking in my door is, however, something that you better have a real good reason for doing (IE, my house is on fire) if you don't want to get say, a baseball bat upside the head. Actually, if I'm asleep and you kick in my door even for a good reason you might get smacked upside the head just out of reflex.

What can I say, I'm not the nicest person when my sleep is disturbed. I spent over a year getting less than 3 hours of sleep a night and it took several years to get myself back to a normal sleep cycle. If you've ever gone through something like that, you probably know how precious sleep is.

I'mma come kick your door in in the middle of the night.

And yes, I've done the 2 or 3 hours a day deal. Not fun.