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Auto or standard?


86MUDRCJ

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Sheridan, CA
Vehicle Year
1986
Transmission
Manual
So I have a question for y'all. As far as off roading/dding goes what's the best for an all around setup? Doubler is a no go for right now but that wouldn't matter while driving. Just wanted to ask for you guys' opinion.Much appreciated.:icon_thumby:
 
Kinda depends on what you consider off roading. Fire roads and anything through a single blue square at an off road park I personally would stick with a manual because I enjoy driving it, it gets slightly better mileage, less to mess with and less to fail, and it keeps most of
My buddies from driving my truck. If you plan on hitting deep or long mud holes, any kind of rock crawling or things that will eat a clutch for breakfast I would stick to an auto. And sacrifice the mileage and the little enjoyment of a manual
 
An automatic is nice when you eat burgers while you're driving and when lighting your cigarette on the on ramp. It would also be a benefit if you only had one leg and one arm. But for me, nothing beats hearing that good ol' grinding sound when you make a shift. Can't find it? Grind it!
 
I prefer an Auto for every day things. My DD is a Auto Jeep 4x4 and I use it to pull my boat. I feel a bit safer with it in park and the parking brake up when I launch my boat.

My hunting play toy is a 5speed. I don't mind shifting and all that comes with a manual when I'm running through the woods or backroads. Less chance of having to constantly stop and shift up or down when people don't know how to drive infront of you.

So Auto for city/town. Manual country/woods.
 
A lot of stuff around here are mud holes and dirt roads but if I drive Alittle I have the rubicon and all those trails up there.
 
I've only owned a few automatics in almost 40 years of driving...the last one was my 95 Zuki that I absolutely loved...and drove that for 6 years till I finally killed it...but when I started driving my Ranger again with the 5 speed manual I took to it like a fish on a bike and haven't looked back...too much.

Like Luke said, it's nice when you want to do other things while driving...but there is one thing about driving a manual transmission...it keeps you thinking about driving and that is probably the best reason for having it...distractions can kill you faster than anything and if you have to keep your hands and feet moving to keep going forward then it helps you focus on the primary purpose of the word "driver"...and that is driving.

Yeah, sure, I can probably drive a manual in my sleep now...but I still have that obligation to be the one in care and control of that vehicle...and that is the law...
 
Manual for me... Mark is 100% correct about distractions, but I can still light my cigarette... use a zippo.

Although I definitely agree that unless you are an absolute professional, you will eat clutches for breakfast whilst rock-crawling or otherwise hard-core off-roading.
 
DD - auto. (I pass 33 traffic lights in only 35 miles and sit in stop and go traffic for at least 10 of them.)

Toys - manual (My lifted Ex, Cobra, and Supercoupe are all stick.)

Off-road only - auto (whether its on the drag strip or on the rocks, a properly built auto is king.)
 
I prefer manual for pretty much everything except being stuck in stop & go traffic :annoyed:
I do have a t-case doubler for when it comes to rock crawling however...

If you're not able to run a doubler (either no funds, or you just flat-out refuse to), then an automatic trans will be much easier to cope with if you get into big rocks (like others have said, you'll just be burning up clutches with a stick). You had better put a good cooler on that auto though, because you can just as easily burn up an auto too crawling without one.


A doubler makes it a whole 'nother world when your gearing is sufficient that you don't have to keep your foot on the gas. At idle, I can hold the truck on a large rock, slowly creep it up (or even down) the rock, pretty much anything I need to do through use of only the brakes and working of the clutch (the load on the clutch with a doubler is so light, the risk of burning it up or wearing it out prematurely is pretty low, even after some minutes of working it). A doubler also allows you MUCH more finesse when you're going down the other side of the rock too (no hard jolting or bouncing around from trying to control your descent with the brakes).

A mud truck or drag car are probably the only vehicles I would have with an auto. Even with the annoyance in traffic, a manual is just simpler, more reliable, and doesn't sap your power or drag down your MPG as much.


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It's been beat to death (or so I thought). It really comes down to personal preference.

I've been driving manuals on a regular basis since I was 17. My education on driving one started before that. For several years, I drove nothing but manuals. When I did have to drive an auto after those few years, I found myself constantly trying to clutch it. I also managed to slap an auto on the floor into neutral and lower gears.:annoyed:

When I first started to learn to drive a manual, my dad kept telling me that after awhile you wouldn't think of it, it would be second nature. I kept fighting with it and thinking there is no way in he!!. But, he was right. I can be chewing on a sandwich, puzzling out a problem and slurping a drink and the shifter just kind of moves around on it's own. There is still room for improvement, but I'm very comfortable driving a manual on a regular basis and I love being able to choose the gear I want and feel the drivetrain vibrations through the shifter - it'll tell you a lot about the truck and what it's doing along with when to shift.

My Ranger was my first vehicle. 5-speed. Right now it needs a core support and some other misc stuff, but it was my DD/hauler/work truck/play toy for over 10 years.

My 88 BII was my next vehicle, I bought it intending to use it for offroading but somewhere along the line things changed a bit. I figured it might be nice to use for in the evening or whatever to go out on the town or whatnot. After driving a 5-speed all day, an auto was a nice change of pace. But after having it on the road for 3 months it swallowed a couple valves and that was that.

My choptop became my street-legal playtoy and off-roader. With a 5-speed. Someday it may get a doubler, but for now that's future plans.

I had an 89 Eddie Bauer BII for a couple years off at college. I used it for running on campus or around town a lot and would usually take my Ranger when I was headed home for the weekend. Although I love my Ranger, the BII was a little nicer on campus being a couple feet shorter. Plus it was 4x4 and college was in an area I affectionately refer to as hell's icebox. Snowfall was measured by the foot, they plowed once a day whether it needed it or not, and they never used salt. It was an auto (the second auto I ever owned). Kinda wish I wouldn't have sold it.

My F-150 is a 5-speed. My current DD/work truck/hauler/plow rig.

Also have an F-350 with.... a 5-speed.

Traffic and city driving can suck with a manual, no two ways about it. But I live more out towards the country and if I could only have one or the other, I'd pick a manual every time. It's what I was raised to drive.

Someday I may build a pure rock crawler/off roader. I was leaning heavily towards an auto, but after seeing Gwaii's contraption, well, it was an inspiration to the possibility of using a clutch somewhere....
 
I myself prefer a Manual. Most of weekend driving is around town. Not much stop and go, but Its nice to be able to shift. My commute for work during the week is 248 miles weekly, with majority of that highway up in 5th gear so I'll get plenty of mileage out of the clutch. Best of both worlds I feel. However, if i was doing alot of stop and go I wouldn't hesitate at all to go trade in for an auto. Hell, I had an Auto 2007 F150..5.4L 4x4 all that good stuff...I traded it in for my current truck cause I wanted a 5 speed again..but I won't deny that even with the Automatic It was the best truck I've owned (I've had 2 5 speed rangers and one 5 speed F150) and i still wish i hadn't gotten rid of it.
 
The reason I dont have a doubler is because of funds but I will get one of these days. I just figured an auto might be better because I won't be goin crazy in the cab while. Plus the wife could drive it.(she refuses to learn.)if I go to an auto I'll make sure I get somethin to keep it cool I've seen quite a few burn up because of improper cooling. Don't get me wrong I love the 5speed but I don't know how I'd like it on the rocks.
 
The reason I dont have a doubler is because of funds but I will get one of these days. I just figured an auto might be better because I won't be goin crazy in the cab while. Plus the wife could drive it.(she refuses to learn.)if I go to an auto I'll make sure I get somethin to keep it cool I've seen quite a few burn up because of improper cooling. Don't get me wrong I love the 5speed but I don't know how I'd like it on the rocks.
When I take the choptop off-road, 4-low is how I roll. lets you stay off the clutch more, so it doesn't heat up as much.
 
Me too but the thing is it seems I'm going from 1st to 2nd and back down way more than I'd like to be.
 
DD - auto. (I pass 33 traffic lights in only 35 miles and sit in stop and go traffic for at least 10 of them.)

Toys - manual (My lifted Ex, Cobra, and Supercoupe are all stick.)

Off-road only - auto (whether its on the drag strip or on the rocks, a properly built auto is king.)

+1

I did the stick in stop and go traffic thing for a couple years... I royally hated it.
 

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