Anyone stick weld?

[RangerMan9389]

good old stick welding is still the most widely used process of welding today. stick is my preferd process next to tig. wich is more for you more delicate welds. mig is great on light and heavey material that is though only if you have a decent size machine. just a regular 110v lincoln you buy at homedepot is only good for about 1/8" your good 180 and 250 amp machines will do all your light guages and heavey up to almost 1/2" the draw back of mig is the material being welded must be extremely clean. it dose not like rust or pitted metal nor a breeze (aka the booger man)

but back to stick welding, it is still a great method as long as you choose your rod wisely. i would never use a 6010 or 6013 on any structural part or frame of a car. a 6013 you might be able to get away with but not a 6010 or 6011. its not a very ductile rod like a low hydrogen or 7018 meaning it dosen't want to bend or flex with out breaking. it a great rod to tack with though for that reason. and downhill is great for filling gaps but i would always run an uphill pass back over it. downhill dose not penetrate nearly as much as uphill. and downhill is great if your ever in a bind and need to weld some thin light guage.


jeremy


sorry i get carried away when it comes to welding

 

[mkpecor]

ya i got the old mans buzz box that is well older than me and it works awsome we have made 5 car tralers,bumpers all kinds of things.one of the tralers i traded for a 750 licon wire feed and all the stuff for it,its nice to have both ,i need a tig welder now so i can do soft stuff.

 

[danger88ranger]

I learned to weld with a buzz box, i'm better on it than with my MIG. Everything on my truck so far has been built with a stick welder.

 

[gnardoom]

i like stick because its cheap and universal. all you need is the right rod and it will weld anything, no messing around with gas, liners, rolls and all the other parts to a mig. i only like mig because its faster travel with no cleanup. at work i use flux core wire with co2, everyone always compares it to gasless flux core even though they are different, it looks just as nice as hardwire, still with little cleanup, and there is no limit to thickness of material like hardwire. gasless flux core is crap unless you want to use wire outdoors and dont care how it looks, such as steel erecting, every process, wire or rod is good, it just depends on what you need to do

 

[Kommando SS]

I loved to freakin weld! Which way do yall make a bead? In a circle motion, cresent moon like or what?
I need to try TIG and Aluminium welding more as well as Plasma.

I want to buy a Arc welding machine.

 

[Destroyer000]

i tend to do little circles or half moons with a mig.... a tig i use the dip method an stick depends on what rod your using an whats being welded..

another awesome feature with a stick welder is you can CUT with it!! haha.. take a 6010 rod an crank your amps up to about 200-250 an youc an cut right through some 5/16 plate no problem.. granted its not going to be a super clean cut but it does work..

 

[gnardoom]

i heard soaking rods in water makes them cut clean because it gives it a stronger jet

 

[metalmacguyver]

i build a trailer this summer with a mig. pretty much my first time welding. then at school this past fall i took a welding class and we did torch brazing, mig, stick and TIG!!! i love tig. its so clean and you can get really nice looking welds by fusing the material w/o filler.

anyway, tomorrow i am going to be going to a friends house to use his buzz box to weld up my hitch. gotta get some 7018 rod though. all he has is 6013.

 

[shadetree]

I use stick. I have an old Sears unit that really buzzes.

I also like to weld with acetylene. Our first welder was gas. It had a huge tank for holding water. The top unit held carbide. It had a handle on it that you pulled to release the carbide into the water. You watched the pressure valve on the tank, and when it came up to operating pressure, you could start welding/cutting, whatever. This is the same thing that was used on early coal mining hats so the miners could have light, only on a much smaller scale. This thing was about 5 foot high.

When it would no longer produce gas, you had to empty the tank. We used to dump the stuff on the ground outside the shop(no EPA in those days). It was white as snow, and smelled like a thousand shit houses turned over.

Our first stick was a Miller. I loved that thing. It was like coming out of the dark ages.


That is how I started welding a thousand years ago. shady

 

[bobbywalter]

almost every engine conversion or axle swap i have ever done used batteries or an alternator to mach/proto up and test and or make final parts...not pretty.... but effective. generally i would tack it up solid and have someone of higher competence do the finish welding.. hell the straps on my frame were stick/battery on the trail to get me home when i cracked my frame bad jumping it...they are still there 15 years later with no issues. a friend burned em on and i did follow up...i didnt start welding alot till these last few years.


5 kids makes real welders hard to buy/justify when the shit you already have laying around gets the job done.....

 

[OldRedFord]

Im in college for welding. I love to stick weld, specially 7018. Im a alright with mig, but I so far hate tig. Cant beat a 110v mig welder for portability tho.

 

[AllanD]

I have two "Stick" welders (one plug in the other gasoline powered) both Lincoln

I also have a MIG machine.

And I can gas weld via a couple different techniques, my favorite is a technique known as "hammer welding", where you beat on the still molten bead flattening it and making it more ductile) which is a technique mainly used on sheet metal.

I also braze and silver braze (mostly on stainless steel)

the important thing about "Stick welding" is first to use the right kind of rod for the parent material, second to use the right currenbt for the particular rod you are using and lastly? use the correct DIAMETER rod for the material thickness you are working on.

If you don't you are only making things harder on yourself.

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[lil_Blue_Ford]

The junkyard up at college that I spent a lot of time at, they had an old Lincoln buzz box that the owner used quite often to weld stuff up. He even patched up my tranny x-member in my Ranger that was cracking, did a nice job of it too.

I was with a friend helping out with fabbing up an axle truss an some other stuff, the guy he had doing the welding had a massive old stick welder that had BUZZ BOX written on the front and a massive selector handle. He did a great job with it too.

I haven't used anything other than an oxy-act rig for welding so far. Soon as I can get this stupid computer to give me my zip drive back, I'll get my welding pics loaded up and posted. Pics I have are of my first attempts at gas welding. I think I love it, it was way easier than I had expected.

 

[jgrnot]

MIG welders are becoming so advanced these days. The strength is no longer an issue. MIG is easier and faster, which makes it cheaper. More and more companies (in construction trades at least) are converting to MIG. I have a little Lincoln welder with the capability of welding up to 1/2" steel. I've made some great welds with perfect penetration on 3/8" steel, with both gas and flux core. I even purchased a kit to wire feed aluminum. Welder can only handle 1/8" though. It's not as pretty as TIG, but it does a good job.

I can stick weld....very well. I personally have never had a weld fail.....I use 6011 or 6013.........F*CK 7018. I would rather use the wire feed. IMO, gets the job done much faster, and the quality is better. I'm welding something at work nearly every day. If it's in the shop, it's MIG with gas. If it's in the field, it's MIG with flux core. The shop also buys awesome machines. Every once in while I'll TIG stainless, aluminum and copper (very rarely brass). I just don't understand why I always have problems TIG'ing stainless. Aluminum is cake for me. Usually this is the opposite for most people.

 

[jgrnot]

gasless flux core is crap unless you want to use wire outdoors and dont care how it looks, such as steel erecting, every process, wire or rod is good, it just depends on what you need to do

It's just as good as any other type. Only thing that sucks is the spatter, but that can be prevented.