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Ok Campers. Just posting to either vent, or get other ideas LOL.
Have the other A4LD installed. Not something I'd want to do again anytime soon. Took it on it's first normal drive, and had one major issue, and a rather annoying sound.
The major issue? The starter fried! I'm fairly sure it was about due to fail, as the shop I wound up shelling out almost 3 bills to deal with it? Stated it was not a forgotten ground, or other issue that caused the fail. Had no choice but to have a local repair shop do the work, the starter 'popped' while I was parked in a firelane loading up supplies for work. So it's got a nice shiny rebuilt Napa Gold starter..and I got hit with the bill LOL.
Now after installing the transmission, and correctly filling it. I did a test drive. Normal shifting, seems fair..However I don't dare rail on it to much. But I did notice an oddball "Warble" type sound (low volume, but clear as a bell) coming from the area of the torque converter.
The shop was nice enough, while waiting for Napa to deliver the part..They checked out the transmission, and informed me that more then likely? The noise is coming from the pump area. And they told me the likely cause? Is the fact the numbnuttedfruitbasket that installed the transmission before I got the truck? He never installed the spacer plate?!?!? Now the shop chasted me a bit for not installing it..my reply? "If it wasn't installed upon my tearing it apart? It didn't get installed. If I had known it was missing? I'd have picked up one from the salvage yard".
They feel, and it makes a bit of sense. Without that spacer plate in use? The torque converter is being pressed into the transmission to 'tight' and that's creating the warble-noise. It makes sense in a way. Hopefully that's all it is. I picked up a spacer plate from the yard that sold me the transmission, and the owner stated that the clearances used are very tight on most cars and trucks. The missing plate would press the torque converter into the pump an extra 1/8" or so, and it's pretty tight in that area. So that 1/8" might be all it takes to create extreme wear on the pump. I basically drove the BII back home, got a used plate...and it's almost fully installed.
I will give the designers full marks. No need to remove/drop the transmission. All we did was remove the 4 bolts at the bell housing, and run the top two bolts back. Unbolted the torque converter as well to ensure using a set of small pry bars to slide the transmission back would not put un-due stress on the front seal or the pump/converter itself. Once there was just enough room to clear the plate past the guide rods at the lower end of the block? The plate was inserted, and shimmeyeeeeed up into place using the cutout supplied to manuaver it past the center bit where the crank bolts to the flex plate.
I called it a night at 5:30. All that's left is to re-bolt/tighten the bell housing bolts (we snugged down the top two bolts, and the lowest bolts are run down enough to prevent excessive pressure on the top bolts.) Just gotta install the two bolts, torque the bell housing bolts to spec...install the dip stick tube (nice--remove that and you can actually reach the two top bolts at the bell housing) Let's see...Tighten back down the rear mount (loose to allow the transmission to slip rearward about 1/4 inch) Install the torque converter nuts...torque 'em down..Reinstall the starter...
And hope next time it's started? The warble sound should be gone with the extra 1/8" space created between the pump and the torque converter.
If not? As the saying goes...gotta drive it until it breaks LOL. I'm still planning on doing a full rebuild on the old transmission for a useable spare.
S-
Have the other A4LD installed. Not something I'd want to do again anytime soon. Took it on it's first normal drive, and had one major issue, and a rather annoying sound.
The major issue? The starter fried! I'm fairly sure it was about due to fail, as the shop I wound up shelling out almost 3 bills to deal with it? Stated it was not a forgotten ground, or other issue that caused the fail. Had no choice but to have a local repair shop do the work, the starter 'popped' while I was parked in a firelane loading up supplies for work. So it's got a nice shiny rebuilt Napa Gold starter..and I got hit with the bill LOL.
Now after installing the transmission, and correctly filling it. I did a test drive. Normal shifting, seems fair..However I don't dare rail on it to much. But I did notice an oddball "Warble" type sound (low volume, but clear as a bell) coming from the area of the torque converter.
The shop was nice enough, while waiting for Napa to deliver the part..They checked out the transmission, and informed me that more then likely? The noise is coming from the pump area. And they told me the likely cause? Is the fact the numbnuttedfruitbasket that installed the transmission before I got the truck? He never installed the spacer plate?!?!? Now the shop chasted me a bit for not installing it..my reply? "If it wasn't installed upon my tearing it apart? It didn't get installed. If I had known it was missing? I'd have picked up one from the salvage yard".
They feel, and it makes a bit of sense. Without that spacer plate in use? The torque converter is being pressed into the transmission to 'tight' and that's creating the warble-noise. It makes sense in a way. Hopefully that's all it is. I picked up a spacer plate from the yard that sold me the transmission, and the owner stated that the clearances used are very tight on most cars and trucks. The missing plate would press the torque converter into the pump an extra 1/8" or so, and it's pretty tight in that area. So that 1/8" might be all it takes to create extreme wear on the pump. I basically drove the BII back home, got a used plate...and it's almost fully installed.
I will give the designers full marks. No need to remove/drop the transmission. All we did was remove the 4 bolts at the bell housing, and run the top two bolts back. Unbolted the torque converter as well to ensure using a set of small pry bars to slide the transmission back would not put un-due stress on the front seal or the pump/converter itself. Once there was just enough room to clear the plate past the guide rods at the lower end of the block? The plate was inserted, and shimmeyeeeeed up into place using the cutout supplied to manuaver it past the center bit where the crank bolts to the flex plate.
I called it a night at 5:30. All that's left is to re-bolt/tighten the bell housing bolts (we snugged down the top two bolts, and the lowest bolts are run down enough to prevent excessive pressure on the top bolts.) Just gotta install the two bolts, torque the bell housing bolts to spec...install the dip stick tube (nice--remove that and you can actually reach the two top bolts at the bell housing) Let's see...Tighten back down the rear mount (loose to allow the transmission to slip rearward about 1/4 inch) Install the torque converter nuts...torque 'em down..Reinstall the starter...
And hope next time it's started? The warble sound should be gone with the extra 1/8" space created between the pump and the torque converter.
If not? As the saying goes...gotta drive it until it breaks LOL. I'm still planning on doing a full rebuild on the old transmission for a useable spare.
S-
