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2.3L ('83-'97) 92 exhaust manifold on a 94?


racsan

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Im thinking of completely replacing my entire exhaust system, manifold to tailpipe, Im having issues locating a manifold, rock auto has no listing for a manifold and fleabay only seems to have a dorman replacement for a 83/92 model year, its fully cast iron, my 94 has a header style, bent pipes welded to a engine mounting flange & the end the converter bolts to. (which has both bolts broken off in). Im thinking the older style cast manifold will work, I doubt I could get the original bolts drilled out & retapped straight. Anyone used a older cast manifold on a “newer” 2.3 lima?
 
I know they'll bolt to the head, but the question is the DPFE tube and the outlet, I know they changed over the years somewhere but don't remember when... I can get some pictures of the '89 manifold I have in the shop tomorrow so you can compare to what you have...
 
My biggest concern is the angle of the outlet & if its the same. Went out & took a picture. looks like the O2 sensor goes in from the bottom, the dpte thing is on the top. As you can see (maybe) the downpipe is held to the manifold by a 1/4” bolt going between 2 muffler clamps, one on manifold & the other on the downpipe. I may try fixing the manifold first, the broken flange bolts are all thats wrong with it, might be a better flowing part than the cast iron part from earlier engines.
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I'll look tonight, I think the main advantage is the 10lb lighter the fabricated version is though... In the 5.0L explorers if I remember right the iron out flowed the fabricated and they were fabricated before cast instead of the other way around on the Lima's...
 
If only the stock internals could take boost, id be real tempted to put a turbo on it. At 160K I know the compression isnt what it once was, adding boost would up the blow-by at the very least. Could be fun though, pricey too.
 
If only the stock internals could take boost, id be real tempted to put a turbo on it. At 160K I know the compression isnt what it once was, adding boost would up the blow-by at the very least. Could be fun though, pricey too.

Dooooo iiiiiiiit.

Thing would take a few pounds no sweat. Keep the boost low enough and you don't even have to worry about intercooling.
 
I know me though, Id want to turn it up “a little more”, then there goes a piston or more. Maybe I should consider a turbo engine build, then swap my tired 2.3 for a boosted one.
 
I got sidetracked working on my '90 so forgot... maybe tomorrow...

Over the years I've heard a lot and several people say the stock block can handle up to around 5psi boost before having issues, just listen for pinging, if I remember right the consensus was to go up one or two sizes of fuel injector and call it macaroni... just run a turbo with a wastegate (MAF doesn't like blow off valves...) and adjust it to a safe point... my '90 is set for like 12-14psi with a ported head (takes less pressure to get the same amount of air...) and it will ping but I have forged pistons so I don't really care... I've seen the pistons after more pinging than I have now and they don't seem to care... I wouldn't try the same with cast pistons though...
 
I got sidetracked working on my '90 so forgot... maybe tomorrow...

Over the years I've heard a lot and several people say the stock block can handle up to around 5psi boost before having issues, just listen for pinging, if I remember right the consensus was to go up one or two sizes of fuel injector and call it macaroni... just run a turbo with a wastegate (MAF doesn't like blow off valves...) and adjust it to a safe point... my '90 is set for like 12-14psi with a ported head (takes less pressure to get the same amount of air...) and it will ping but I have forged pistons so I don't really care... I've seen the pistons after more pinging than I have now and they don't seem to care... I wouldn't try the same with cast pistons though...

You running 91 or 93?
 
Highest available in Oregon without being specialty is 91, but it sits a lot and sometimes I'll cheap out and put plus in, and when I go play at high altitudes I don't bother with anything special... my first turbo 2.3L pinged like heck before I realized the fuel pump relay power out wire that goes to the computer went to the octane switch pin on the turbo computer... the pistons looked fine when I rebuilt it later for other reasons. Not that everyone should do what I've been doing :) I do NOT always have the best ideas...
 

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