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88 in need of budget upgrade


David88

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City
Brewton, AL
Vehicle Year
1988/2006
Transmission
Manual
So I got an 88 Supercab 2.9L with a 5-speed Mitsubishi trans.
I lifted it with a 3-inch body lift ad have it sitting on 265/70/R16 tires on 16x8 Pacers. Just about the whole drive train is new except the motor which is still the original 88 one. Looking for a drop in replacement for it. Like a 3.0 or the 4.0 from a newer Ranger/Explorer.

What is the newest engine I could get? Local U-pull it sells complete engines for $400. So I want to find a low mileage one I can stick in to turn the bigger tires better and feel a bit safer about taking it more than 30 miles from home.
 
The only "drop in" engine swap available for that is the 2.9L

Everything else requires modification. The wiring is different. The clutch is different. And depending on the year of the motor, the bellhousing can be different.

The wiring will be the biggest thing to overcome. Easiest way to do it is to swap not only the engine wiring harness but also the dash harness.

Depending on the condition of the 2.9, it can be fairly reliable if you put in a 4.0L radiator, 180* thermostat and take care of it. I ran an 89 BII I bought out of the jaws of a crusher for a couple years. Thing had something like 200k+ miles on it and several times I drove it the 100 miles between college and home, I wasn't too concerned about traveling that far with it. I had a bunch of my tools in the back, a good spare tire, a cellphone, a CB radio, and a AAA card. Oh, and a lot of knowledge from spending too much time on here. :icon_twisted:
 
It's a good truck considering it was free. I'm not to concerned if it was just me in the truck, but I got the wife, kid, and one on the way. And some places cells don't work.

I was told that the bolt pattern on all Ford V6 Engines were the same as far as bell housings went. I'm not really sure myself. I know that a 92 Thunderbird 302 is plug and play, the dash harness plugs into the TB's engine control computer.

Is it the same for the early 90s 4.0?
 
It's a good truck considering it was free. I'm not to concerned if it was just me in the truck, but I got the wife, kid, and one on the way. And some places cells don't work.

I was told that the bolt pattern on all Ford V6 Engines were the same as far as bell housings went. I'm not really sure myself. I know that a 92 Thunderbird 302 is plug and play, the dash harness plugs into the TB's engine control computer.

Is it the same for the early 90s 4.0?
That's why I had the CB with the 102" steel whip on the spare tire carrier of the BII, lol.

But seriously, if the truck is in good condition and the motor is as well, I see no reason why not to take it on longer trips. I'm not talking about crossing the country with the family, but after owning the one BII I had, I have faith in those motors. The biggest thing is keeping them cool so you don't crack the heads. Other than that, they're stout motors (and really, some early 4.0L motors had the same head problem - just with the larger radiator they were less likely to crack a head). When I got the BII, it was a dog. Wouldn't hardly get out of it's own way. Soon as I got the parts gathered together and some time, I went through and did a full tune-up. Plugs, wires, cap, rotor, fuel filter, air filter, trans filter (it was an auto), oil change (substituted a cup of ATF for a cup of oil). The poor truck needed it badly, it obviously hadn't been done in half of forever. When I fired it up after the tune up, no lie, it coughed and sputtered on the shop floor (I made friends with the owner of the junkyard that I saved the truck from and got to use their shop). I thought for sure that I'd killed the poor thing. After about 5 minutes of terrible hacking and sputtering, it started to smooth out in running and a few minutes after that, it was the nicest running 2.9 I had ever heard, despite the high mileage. I drove the truck for about 3 years around college and back home before selling it to one of my professors for his kid.

IIRC, the bolt pattern is not all the same. 2.9 and 4.0 share the same bolt pattern, at least up until the SOHC motors (not sure if they're the same or not). I've heard that the early 3.0 will bolt up and I've heard it will not bolt up. Never had one so I cannot verify.

The clutch, flywheel and starter are all different from a 2.9 and 4.0, and the slave cyl has a different part number, IIRC. So to change to a 4.0L, that would all need changed too.

Even with the early 90's 4.0 motors, the harness is different. The computer plugs are the same style, but the engine harness is different for both since the 2.9 uses a distributor and the 4.0 uses coil packs. On the other end of the engine harness, the plugs for the dash are different. 88 was the last year for the first-gen styling and with the second gen style, not only was it a different front end style, but the dash and wiring harness saw changes. If it was an 89, the plugs for a 4.0 would be largely similar to the plugs on the truck, but being it is an 88, no such luck.

I went through this trying to put a 4.0 in my 88 BII. Resolving the wiring differences is difficult. Enough so that I never got it running in that truck and now the truck needs other attention. The biggest challenge is trying to find useful wiring diagrams to do the swap with, then you have around 20 or 30 wires to splice. My solution now is that the 4.0 is going in my 89 (where it will be a much easier swap) and the 2.9 in my 89 is going in my 88.
 
3.0 won't work, you don't want it anyway.

A 4.0 will tear your transmission up pretty bad pretty quick.

The only true "drop in" replacement for a 2.9 of that year is a 2.9.

The 4.0 is the next closest, and does require a bit of work to do. I'm about to start on my 87 soon. I've determined the easiest way is probably going to be to get the in-side end of the cannon-plug and do my wire splicing there.
 
You could also drop in a respectable 2.3 and have your wife begging you to go faster...for the kids (I assume you will be producing more than one after the 2.3 swap) you can install roof racks and buy them sporty eye goggles and helmets...it's better to strap them down horizontal than to try to put kiddie seats on the roof racks though...pointing their heads forwards gives them a better view and when they drool you can save money on windshield washer...except in winter where you may want to feed them red gator aide so you know the difference between the drool and green or blue washer fluid...

But on a more humorous side, you can maybe save yourself some marital spats by simply trading in the Ranger for a mini van or keep it for those wild and crazy single nights when your wife is at the Bingo hall trying to win enough to feed junior(s) and pay for your upgrades on the truck...
 
You could also drop in a respectable 2.3 and have your wife begging you to go faster...for the kids (I assume you will be producing more than one after the 2.3 swap) you can install roof racks and buy them sporty eye goggles and helmets...it's better to strap them down horizontal than to try to put kiddie seats on the roof racks though...pointing their heads forwards gives them a better view and when they drool you can save money on windshield washer...except in winter where you may want to feed them red gator aide so you know the difference between the drool and green or blue washer fluid...

But on a more humorous side, you can maybe save yourself some marital spats by simply trading in the Ranger for a mini van or keep it for those wild and crazy single nights when your wife is at the Bingo hall trying to win enough to feed junior(s) and pay for your upgrades on the truck...

I wouldn't quit your day job. A comedic genius you are not. I don't want to sink money into something that will be weaker than the 2.9 is. The truck just for taking me to work and hunting, but it is lifted with bigger tires and rims.

That's what the motorcycle is for.

I'll probably just buy a rebuild kit and rework the motor once I have some free time to do it. Other than using a quart of PS fluid every week, there's not much wrong under the hood, only a slight valve rattle that quiets down after idling a bit.

How does the 2.9 handle being bored out? And what would be a safe amount to do without making the engine overstressed? I'll probably upgrade to the stouter aftermarket heads if I tear into the engine and maybe see if I can find a radiator from a 4.0 or a 5.0 explorer that I can male fit in it for better cooling.
 
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