Still no progress other than still collecting the random part here and there. I believe i started this project the wrong time of the year; little bit of snow and 19degree weather yesterday. Thanks for the pic bobbywalter. Do you have a larger image? hopefully there wont be clearance issues with the pan an the 4x4brackets though. however if there are problems then i reckon i'll just start my next project before this one is finished and just get rid of that bracket all together hehehe