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:thefinger: i get the point lol, is there a reason you choose the c6auto instead of a manual? i know the c6 isnt a manual but im not really on the up and up on transmissions and which is the best for every application.:dunno:

Because a C6 can live a happy life behind a big motor and because I wanted a reverse pattern valvebody and transbrake. Oh yeah and the last reason is I have had manuals in the past and my knee gets tired of the clutch. lol
 
Are you on Crack? Meth? or LSD?

AD

what the heck you flaming me for?? its been proven a t-5 can handle some serious power, if you asking me this cause it wont fit the engine, then thats a different story. im not sure if it would fit, so if it doesnt and it wont work for his application, then excuse my retardedness and move on and i have learned something. but dont ask me if im on drugs because of it handling power. i know you know your stuff, but you could atleast have just told me politely i was wrong.
 
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for example: blackwidow--you might wanna read up on the T5---it could change your opinion :icon_thumby:
 
for example: blackwidow--you might wanna read up on the T5---it could change your opinion :icon_thumby:
thank you doorgunner, thats how you should post hen someones wrong. now im gonna go look up the info on a t-5
 
what the heck you flaming me for?? its been proven a t-5 can handle some serious power, if you asking me this cause it wont fit the engine, then thats a different story. im not sure if it would fit, so if it doesnt and it wont work for his application, then excuse my retardedness and move on and i have learned something. but dont ask me if im on drugs because of it handling power. i know you know your stuff, but you could atleast have just told me politely i was wrong.

for example: blackwidow--you might wanna read up on the T5---it could change your opinion :icon_thumby:

thank you doorgunner, thats how you should post hen someones wrong. now im gonna go look up the info on a t-5



now that thats settled. kiss and make up:icon_cheers:lol
 
Because a C6 can live a happy life behind a big motor and because I wanted a reverse pattern valvebody and transbrake. Oh yeah and the last reason is I have had manuals in the past and my knee gets tired of the clutch. lol

those all sound like good reasons :D except im not sure what the benifit of a reverse pattern valvebody would be care to explain your reasoning for this sorry if it is a noob question. i know what the trans brake is for it locks you in 1st and reverse and the same time then when you disengauge it you can get off the line faster then just power braking right? do you race that thing or somthing?
 
okay, the tank stores liquid, hi pressure propane, it flows from the tank to either a VFF30 lockoff or similar device (12v solinoid), which stops and starts the flow of liquid upon demand, from there when there is a demand the liquid travels to the regulator which drops the pressure and converts the liquid to a gas (this chemical change supercools the regulator, requiring engine coolant flowing thru it to keep it from freezing solid), from the regulator propane gas/vapor flows to the "mixer" or propane carb. into the motor as it has demand (throttle plate). the connections can be made with hoses or pipe whichever works best for your application. :icon_thumby:

at the moment i am working on trying to modify a NOS cheater kit to use propane for the fuel, for use on my bronco! :headbang:

that sure sounds complex to setup but im sure with it on your bronco it would be well worth it because that thing seems like its gonna be working hard and from what you said it keeps the engine cooler.:icon_idea: also ment to ask you this where do you fill that up at? do they just hook up your truck tank or do you take the tank to get filled?:icon_confused:
 
what the heck you flaming me for?? its been proven a t-5 can handle some serious power, if you asking me this cause it wont fit the engine, then thats a different story. im not sure if it would fit, so if it doesnt and it wont work for his application, then excuse my retardedness and move on and i have learned something. but dont ask me if im on drugs because of it handling power. i know you know your stuff, but you could atleast have just told me politely i was wrong.

If you think that was a flame you haven't been around here
(or many other places) much.

A "Flame" is when I call you names, comment on my beliefs about your ancestry, dietary habits or sexual practices or likely some highly
imaginitive combination of all three with additional scatalogical garnishes.

You need to understand that the T5 is good for mabey 350ft/lb in
an engine with a relatively lightweight rotating assembly
(it isn't only force but mass) behind a 351/400M engine
with nearly twice the rotating mass? it would be like
depending on a screen door to keep a Brown bear outside your cabin.

Torque, rotating mass, resistance against that force (weight and/or traction) are the three factors that break things.

a Built up 5.0 making truely rediculous power still actually makes
about the same torque as a stock 5.0, it's just doing it at a
much higher rpm...

BTW, show me anyone with a home built race car and I'll show
you someone that exaggerates their power... often by pure
imagination.

"power" is a nearly irrelevant abstract, but ask anyone who is REALLY
"making power" and they either have several prepped spares OR they are running something else. OR they are running a T-5 case with a collection
of internal parts made FAR from any Borg-Warner plant

You CAN build a T-5 using only a borg-warner case
Kinda like ou can build a Small block chevy without
using a single genuine GM part.
So, quite often that "T-5 handling some serious power" really
isn't a T-5 at all It's a strong aftermarket trans built into a
T-5 case to fool an inspector from a racing sanctioning body....

The T-5 has an undeserved reputation in some circles.
This "circle" is not one of them.... or should I say that in THIS circle
it has a somewhat different reptation than you are familiar with...
that and mating a T-5 to a 351M woud be difficult at best
even ignoring that the original poster wanted to put it in a 4x4.

Did I "flame" you? I certainly don't think so
because to "flame" someone presumes I'm angry or
otherwise emotionally involved in the discussion....
a false presumption to say the least...

But I can easily be rude and/or condescending without getting into
the same country with "emotionally involved"

Stick around, but grow thicker skin.

AD
 
If you think that was a flame you haven't been around here
(or many other places) much.

A "Flame" is when I call you names, comment on my beliefs about your ancestry, dietary habits or sexual practices or likely some highly
imaginitive combination of all three with additional scatalogical garnishes.

You need to understand that the T5 is good for mabey 350ft/lb in
an engine with a relatively lightweight rotating assembly
(it isn't only force but mass) behind a 351/400M engine
with nearly twice the rotating mass? it would be like
depending on a screen door to keep a Brown bear outside your cabin.

Torque, rotating mass, resistance against that force (weight and/or traction) are the three factors that break things.

a Built up 5.0 making truely rediculous power still actually makes
about the same torque as a stock 5.0, it's just doing it at a
much higher rpm...

BTW, show me anyone with a home built race car and I'll show
you someone that exaggerates their power... often by pure
imagination.

"power" is a nearly irrelevant abstract, but ask anyone who is REALLY
"making power" and they either have several prepped spares OR they are running something else. OR they are running a T-5 case with a collection
of internal parts made FAR from any Borg-Warner plant

You CAN build a T-5 using only a borg-warner case
Kinda like ou can build a Small block chevy without
using a single genuine GM part.
So, quite often that "T-5 handling some serious power" really
isn't a T-5 at all It's a strong aftermarket trans built into a
T-5 case to fool an inspector from a racing sanctioning body....

The T-5 has an undeserved reputation in some circles.
This "circle" is not one of them.... or should I say that in THIS circle
it has a somewhat different reptation than you are familiar with...
that and mating a T-5 to a 351M woud be difficult at best
even ignoring that the original poster wanted to put it in a 4x4.

Did I "flame" you? I certainly don't think so
because to "flame" someone presumes I'm angry or
otherwise emotionally involved in the discussion....
a false presumption to say the least...

But I can easily be rude and/or condescending without getting into
the same country with "emotionally involved"

Stick around, but grow thicker skin.

AD

ok well im sorry for my first post, i was just mad seeing it. second, than you for the info, if you had stated that the first time, this wouldnt have happened. so thanks for the info. good stuff. but next time, dont ask me if im on lsd. dave
 
black widow, stating a t5 would be a good candidate in this application is a dumbshit deal. for all the reasons stated and a few more.

adapting a t5 to a wheezer oem power pos 351 m is possible, and honestly it wont really die any quicker death then it would behind a ho or better spec 302 in a 2wd application. going 4x4 on the other hand changes things if it is used hard with more then 300 pounds of torque.


but...from the view of my tiny lttle mind and beady little eyes.....

if it is wrong or a bad idea to suggest a t5 in this application, its equally wrong to put a 460 past a 351 m for installation....

i know i sound like a broken record, but if it comes in a regular passenger car or standard 1 ton and down pickup it can go in a ranger...generally speaking fairly easily...

10 grand is a lofty number. and i know i could spend 50 grand building a rig.

but the cost of the swap is too varied, if a guy had a wrecked 460 1 ton sitting behind his garage with a good powertrain in it, a 460 ranger on tons would happen at my house for under 500 bux out of pocket if i already had a ranger too.

whether back when i was 18 or ten years from now:icon_thumby:.

the only thing that would limit it, is whether or not i wanted to do it.:dunno:
 
10 grand is a lofty number. and i know i could spend 50 grand building a rig.

but the cost of the swap is too varied, if a guy had a wrecked 460 1 ton sitting behind his garage with a good powertrain in it, a 460 ranger on tons would happen at my house for under 500 bux out of pocket if i already had a ranger too.

whether back when i was 18 or ten years from now:icon_thumby:.

the only thing that would limit it, is whether or not i wanted to do it.:dunno:

Thanks :icon_thumby:
 
well see i didnt know it was a 4x4. see im devolping blackwidow-ism side effects include typing while retarded, gettin mad over meaning nothing post. the need to make things louder than they should be. and be the last to post on the forum after everyone else has gone to bed.
 

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